Just for the record guys , all your help has been greatly appreciated but they way i may have come across in respect to my auto sparky come freind - when i mentioned that he was lost - please let me re phase that - not lost but pursuing the correct avenues and always coming up with a solution, my intentions were to purely help my self and his quest to solve the issue. Lost was not the correct terminology - rather a minor stall in attempting to find an answer , my apology if this was misconstrude. once again thank you to all that have helped, particularly to my more than capable auto sparky. He with no doubt will solve .