shit, good feedback,, to anyone above who didnt note its DD not DET so no turbo. Yea it feels sluggish at low revs and as it should as a 2.5 NT pushing 1.7 tons at 3.5 + revs - i guess. 1st and easy is the gas, seems ive been running jap imports that wernt built for even a skeric of performance, so 98 hasnt been needed. My missues 96 pulsar loves 91.. its like a go cart injectors - sure, but it may be too much effort for the result? cats, yea, ive asked my mech about just bypassing them. He says there no law here (nz) to fail a warrant, but it may not be far away. And looking at others, its again not worth the hassle for the result? seems like you guys are saying dont hold too much hope in the O2 and concentrate on the air in/air out. thanks. scotty - its done 160kms. 2002 paid $6k. the last owner got it at 100kms and i dont think he put any effort into the engine. The bodys mint but 2 mechanics say they get the feeling it hasnt had any service love. Now im sure im not as involved in service/tuning as most of the members here, but i do like a car to run near its best. Hence i have atleast got it up to date with the oil/filter, platinum's (gggrr $400) and looking at the temp and O2 sensors. ive found the sensor for NZ$135+gst. so i think that good. they also do the temp sensor for $50 yea ive found out there are pre and post cat sensors. My mech reckons you only need to do the PRE cat sensor. but i thought they both measured againsed each other? Wouldnt this mean that if the post was buggered, the results would be wrong? classone - are you getting 10.5 on open rd or town. i get that on open rd but town is 16.5 yea im light on the trottle but my missus drives it half the time and i dont think shes as conscious as me - really i should just drive it as i want to and i guess our gas consumption would be the same EDIT- am i reading u get 11 in town? how so close to the open rd figures??? thnx for all the info..