Smity42

I used hypergear

Buy a 31

You definitely wouldn't win that one

I love it when you get technical

Not in. burn.

You did . Take care of her

For my family christmas is not a religious affair its just a family get together. That doesn't mean it doesn't have meaning. I always laugh when christians go on about the 'true meaning of christmas'. Do some research into the origins of christmas - you'll be surprised. Someone who WAS born on the 25th of december though was Sir Isaac Newton. Therefore 'newtonmas' is a far more appropriate thing to celebrate.

CBF, and have no time.

Couldn't care less mate, couldn't care less. I'll be in touch soon regarding a 100k service on the wedge

Morning All Zac Leopard has been running brilliantly since I got her back from you guys! Happy customer here #@cowdy

Who says I didn't

Guess who had a couple of pineapples on fiorente?

I have very similar complaints about the way my tax money is spent too (except the old people part). But I have no sympathy for someone earning as much as you. Get a better accountant and rort the system like all the other rich b*stards.

And you should therefore quit your bitching

Yup You're from gat-ton. You must have a mullet.

Mangs. Get my leopard back today

Out . Sorry guys

I should probably have got fuel today hey :S

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Good day at work!

Do you need to check the oil level?

yep more driver ed certainly wouldn't go astray the flip side of the coin of course is that some people are going to be terrible drivers no matter how much training you give them or how much experience they get... they're just always going to be useless

I hate Sh*t heaps on the road too... I wish cops would spend more time worry about them rather than targeting nicely modified imports. Yes, I realise that plenty of modified imports are sh*theaps too, and I have no problem with those ones being targeted. Some, sure. There are exceptions to any rule. But the MAJORITY of P platers won't be in this group. Those P platers that are in this group... tough cookies. They get to have their fun driving when their doing their motorsport. They don't NEED to have a high powered car on the street, and there's no reason they can't abide by the same rules as everyone else for the 3 years that they are on their P's. I've done a fair bit of motorsport and rate myself to be able to drive better than the majority of open licence drivers (ie, the huge percentage of the population that's never driven on a racetrack), but when I'm driving on the street I have to abide by all the same laws as them. So for P platers that have done motorsport, it's the same deal. I have plenty of issues with the hoon laws as well, but that's another topic...

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When I was on my P's I was legally allowed to drive whatever I wanted. However, I spent most of my time on P's driving a stock FWD ford laser... Looking back over the years, my cars have gotten progressively faster - not just in terms of HP but also in terms of the brakes, suspension work, that has been done. From the laser through various stock and modified N/A R31s, to the fairly stock wedge, to the wedge as she is now. This has probably been more to do with the amount of money I had to spend on cars at those points in my life, rather than through any sensible decisions I have made or through laws forcing me to do it. The only sensible decisions I can really take credit for is probably always doing the braking/handling mods before the power mods. However, I feel that the way my cars have progressed has meant that the car I am driving has been appropriately matched to my skill and confidence as a driver, and as these have progressed so has my car. I mean, if I had been driving the wedge as she is now when I was first on my P's, I most probably would have killed myself. P platers, much as they like to think they are, are not driving gods. They have very limited experiencing and just because they can pass a driving test doesn't mean they can handle a sports car on the edge. Sports cars, driven hard, will tend to get you into trouble. That's the nature of the beast. Good sports cars will get you OUT of trouble just as well, IF you know what you're doing. It takes time and experience to learn how to respond when you get into trouble, and while I certainly don't claim to be a driving god now either, I can say with some confidence I am a much better driver than when I was on my Ps... So long story short, yes I think there should be restrictions on what cars P platers drive... I don't think the current rules are perfect - they could definitely be improved, but in principle I agree with them. I don't think there should be a distinction between N/A and forced induction - a powerful N/A car will get you into just as much trouble as a powerful turbo car. A blanket HP limit combined with a power to weight limit, applied to all cars not just forced induction, would work well. I don't think we need to stop P platers from modifying cars, if they want to do brake and handling upgrades why shouldn't they - as long as they do them legally and engineer them properly. And HP mods are OK too, as long as they keep to the power restrictions. With all that said, more driving training would definitely not hurt either... you still can't fast track experience, but more training can give you a step in the right direction. /rant