Oh and i don't belive a stock Z would beat a stock skyline even if it's not an r34. One night along princes HWY, i draged with a blue xf or xd ford, a hsv vs supercharge and a 300z. The FOrd and the HSV was even, my is like two car lengh behind ( back then i had no mod on mine ) and gues where the Z is? about 3car lengh behind me!!! Pull up at the light, wind the window down, ask the Ford guy and his car was a 12sec car, so is the heavyly boost supercharge HSV. There we go, if you guys read HPI oftenly, you guys will see that the VQ engine was the worse NISSAN ever made. Sorry if i may sound insult any Z owners out there but this was just a little personal though, i know there are fast Z out there but consider the $$ that they put in their car then use that $$ to mod a skyline then you'll see the DIFFERENT.