thank you so much. i actually did not find the assembly in operation still learning whats where haha., friday i have got a full service booked in., fresh oil 10w40 hopefully does it wonders, if not and the grindings still there il go ahead to identify which side it is thats making the problem than have a look to see whats going on under cam actuator cover., that explains everything because it doesnt make that noise on a cold start only once up to operating temp., fingers crossed the oil makes it better ., 1 last question mate would you trust your local mechanic to try fix it or is this a critical fix once again thatnks for your help your a legend mate