Yea my gts4 sedan has put a dent in my pocket. Yea I heard about some dog box from some where which was aparantly extreamy hardy, will get back to you on that one... The gtir comes out wiht 440cc right? so what do you recommend? 660cc? Yes i will have 17s so gtr brakes should be okay, and the whiteline kit to correct the understeer... SO what cpu is it that you reccomend? Now it sounds to me as though you dont exactly like the gtir engine that much, any reasons? Are you pointing me in the direction of the gtr? What made you change? If I can get myself a clean RELIABLE gtir into the 12s without too much of a hassle than I will be happy!!