Hi Guys, so finally completed my build and had first day of tuning friday 18th with Chequered Tuning - http://www.chequeredtuning.com
Firstly if anyone would like any images of mod's on the below article I would be more than happy to send more detailed ones through.
For those of you who dont know Trent and Catherine from Chequered Tuning - check their website and some may know Catherine as Driftcat and Trent is an excellent tuner and extremely knowledgeable as one could imagine.
Trent helped with certain aspects of choosing right items for the application and steering away from others - the only thing I forgot to mention was the Z32 AFM that I purchased tried to get the good old cheap cut corner type of ebay crap copy to save $180 or so and yep thats what happens on your day of tuning - throw it in the bin and - I have just driven over 250kms with the car on a trailer to find out that they are pretty much useless, then Trent and Cat say they have a friend just around the corner with a business and he would have one, so we walked just up to the cafe in the same building block as it was about 40+ degree's on Friday kicked back and had a bevo - and Trent and Cat arrive back within ten minutes - brand new genuine Nissan - and we are now good to go.
Trent did try the ebay crap one first but he did advise these are useless and they shouldn’t even be able to sell them on Ebay or anywhere,
And I also want to mention that his time on the Dyno is amazing - no time for talking haha - he works very efficient and still has great conversation while working.
3 Weeks ago
Day before Tuning
Large FMIC - 3" intercooler piping
GTX3582R Dual Bearing AR.82 – 11 Blade Billet Comp Wheel
TOG Steam Pipe Manifold – Tuned Length – 45mm External
Turbosmart Hypergate 45mm Wastegate
650CC Smartfire Injectors – Top feed Upgrade
345LPH in tank Topspeed Pro 1 fuel pump
Adjustable FPR
Z32 AFM
4 Inch Air Intake
Custom Plenum
80mm T/B
High Flow Air Filter
3 Inch Dump Pipe
High Flow 3” Cat
Twin Kakimoto Exhaust – Cat Back
Turbosmart Dual Stage Boost Controller
Greddy FV BOV
Plugs – Gapped 0.8mm - for initial first tune
Oil Catch can – Plumbed to Intake Pipe – PCV hose plugged
Alloy Radiator – Twin Thermo’s
Wideband O2 Gauge AFR – Bosch Lambda LSU 4.9
Boost Gauge
Apexi Power FC
Cometic Head Gasket H/T Head Studs Cometic Intake Manifold Gasket Timing Belt Kit – Gates Racing – Idler and Tensioner Bearings Alt/P/S Belt Oil Pump 77c Thermostat Fuel Filter Thermostatic Controller
After day 1 in tuning some issues found - see below
TOG Schedule 10 S/P Manifold - Issues Found with the GTX3582R and Turbosmart Hypergate 45mm - Noted Below
Issues:
1. The wastegate is too far away from the collector and we want to have least path of resistance for stabilizing boost control
2. The piping size they use as you can see on the V Band Flange where I have marked in green has about 3mm or 4mm from the edge which means the pipe size is incorrect for the Turbosmart Hypergate 45mm - the pipe size used is OD 42.2MM & ID - 36.6MM and should be 45mm ID or I think it is 44.45mm that is available. - This is in their description 45MM WASTEGATE V-BAND FLANGE ( YOU CAN EITHER CUT AND WELD YOUR TYPE WASTEGATE ON OR YOU CAN USE TURBOSMART HYPER GATE 45MM FLANGE WASTEGATE)
3. Red - cut this pipe off completely
4. Blue Circle notch out an oval shape where we can form a nice 2 pipe to one flow at 90 degree - providing us with smoother exit of the exhaust gas to help stabilize boost
5. Yellow line is where the new 45mm V Band will be welded with correct merging of pipes into one at correct diameter
6. This will sit the wastegate closer to Turbo and having a better path for exhaust exit - and with this manifold the dump pipe and the Hypergate 45mm it will still fit nicely and either screamer out or can easily be made to enter smoothly at reduced angles to the dump pipe
7. When the manifold is completed I will post a picture
8. With this current setup on the TOG with GTX3582R and Hypergate 45mm - Boost came on pretty nicely set to 15psi for the base run and at a certain rev range - boost just wanted to get to 30psi as fast as it could - It climbed peaked stabilized at the set 15psi then after a certain rev range boost creep came on strong
9. In the next stage of tuning I will also add the outcome of stabilizing the boost levels - sometime around January 11th
10. Another issue that I had with this manifold is on the RB25det - R33 Series 2 - the number 3 cylinder exhaust outlet hits on the engine mount bracket that bolts to the engine - the black coated one - I simply marked out a curve where it was hitting and grinded/cut that edge out and plated just below to add strength - the part that was cut out is the structural bent edge on the top right hand side looking at the engine from the passenger side wheel - roughly 5mm needed to be taken out.
11. Other than that the manifolds are great quality just a few minor adjustments needed
12. Great Rocker cover clearance as we all know many manifolds dont have this because they are designed for smaller turbochargers - great shocker tower clearance as well just needed to adjust Turb housings
During the mapping/tuning and the boost creep wastegate issue - Trent also went up to Havoc Fabrication which is also in the same complex and had the fabricator come down to check the manifold - he took us to his workshop and showed us some very interesting items he is working on - the quality of these guys work is top class - he showed us some twin turb and twin wastegate setups and how they merge the pipes and have it close to the collector for maximum release. If you want custom turbo manifold work carried out check these guys out. He commented on the TOG and said its a really nice design just the wastegate outlet thats all.
POWER STEERING BOTTLE:
this was as simple as removing the bottle cutting the bracket on the right hand side - flattening the bracket out in the vice on one edge and folding a new edge - then bolted back to one of the original holes and drilling a new one and nyloc nut in the wheel arch - bringing the bottle around from the current position - in this picture the Comp housing looks close butfrom standing at the passenger wheel there is clearance - intake pipe was also purchased from the same company as the TOG manifold allows and has vacuum tubes welded in already, just needed to plug one off with a 12mm rubber plug
Oil catch and plugs for piping ends
with the 19mm rubber plugs the local shops here were limited so the person I sent to get the plug went to mitre 10 and came back with a rubber chair foot - worked that good did not even need clamp - very tight
MANIFOLD, INJECTORS, INJECTOR RAIL - this went together like clockwork cut a few pipes re-routed hoses, I also purchased a windscreen washer bottle from Burson's I just gave them a dimension of 100x100xH200mm - they had almost the perfect size complete with hoses switch pipe fittings cables (I didnt need all that but anyway)- the Factory R33 washer bottle motor fit into the new bottle I simply removed the new and put in the R33 - then I drill another 20mm hole and fit the secondary motor from the R33 and now I have the perfect replacement bottle both motors and excellent clearance for the new Manifold T/B and Intercooler Piping. Another modification I needed to do on the Intercooler piping just before the T/B was a 19mm tube for the IAC valve intake tube
THROTTLE BODY - 80mm T/B issue with the unit sticking open slightly at low revs sometimes 3000rpm - when you back off throttle holds open then a quick touch it closes - Trent loosened nut on side to see if it was excess tension - even placed a second return spring and it is still doing it - so Trent was able to tune to a certain point based on the previous boost creep it was limited for the tuning - I have pulled apart the T/B and checked now and found that the 2 bearings on each side of the shaft were pressed way too tight, when I had everything apart and only the 2 bearings and shaft in the T/B it was tight to some degree, where as a normal T/B should free spin easily. I pressed the shaft out and voila bearings free spin - reassembled with 0.5mm clearance and the bearings and shaft work great - installed back into the vehicle and test drove while data logging and the sticking throttle has now gone.
Z32 AFM - Make sure not to buy copy item on this - purchase the genuine Nissan AFM - This has been setup boost through on cold side mounted vertical below inner guard where the inter cooler piping comes out of Throttle Body (If you would like picture just message) - AFM Harness extended with 5c Trailer Cable and wire ran along the underside of the radiator support panel - reversion don't even notice it - and wiring for the Z32 AFM for R33 - Make sure you dont splice or join the 2 ground wires together for series 2 - 3 wire AFM to Z32 - the Z32 needs to have the signal ground to signal ground and the chassis earth as mentioned it is chassis earth for a reason.
BOV - Vented to Atmo and it is directly opposite the AFM but on the passenger side below inner guard mounted vertical - Vac Line from Manifold Behind T/B and ran along the drivers side and along the underside of the Radiator Support Panel
SILICONE INTER COOLER HOSES - popped a few off on the initial load testing once they were tight - boost away - I will explain below on this
SMFI INJECTORS - So far so good the Smartfire Injectors are performing very well - we have 650's in for now testing the performance of the SMFI type - and if needed we have 1000cc and 1200cc
FUEL RAIL - after I completed the installation of the fuel pump and were ready for its initial priming to test for leaks and pressure testing at different levels, when I first added pressure/flow 15psi - I had 2 fuel leaks - and this point was late in the early hours of the morning - yep fix it tomorrow, the next day I found the issue I had double O-Ringed all injectors and somehow had missed one injector with the double o-ring and yep the O-Ring that was on this one particular must not have had enough slippy stuff and one edge was flattened - when I replaced and doubled it perfect, so good lesson double check your double o-rings and ensure to add sufficient KY VAS LUBE OIL whichever you choose,
The second leak was in the AN 90degree fitting at the rear of the fuel rail - Maybe I over tightened - but this particular fitting I noticed when tightening it was moving around like it was slightly bent hence why it wasnt sealing - misaligned contact surface - changed it out and sealed great.
I then performed testing at 5 minutes intervals with 30psi - then the stock 43.5psi all seemed well no leaks - I continued to increase fuel pressure to 63.5psi and all the way to 80psi with no leaks in the system while running cold test. I was curious to see when heat transfer was applied in tuning. All went well
FUEL PUMP - Topspeed Pro1 345LPH In tank
Very easy conversion - unscrew everything take it out remove old pump fit new pump put back in - the only issue was the big black plastic nut holding the pump assembly into the tank, blow dust away with air, spray with WD40 so the threads get penetrated with lubricant, use a 3foot long piece of steel tube and a big whacker, slowly hit each tooth on the big black nut anti clockwise, it moves about 2 inches at a time until it is ready to unscrew by hand. Another note people say the black o ring needs to be replaced when removed because of expansion but just take your time be careful dont stretch anything and it will go back in with no issues and you wont be able to smell fuel in your boot, thats why we use WD40 so the Black Nut doesnt bind on the big o-ring causing stress and stretching it.
When the fuel pump is out you can either inspect the sock and use it - or use the new one - or purchase stock sock - there are many discussions about this but I used the new sock - the pump doesnt suck fuel from the lowest part of the sock - it is like a sludge pump so to speak it will lie across the bottom of the tank and if only if the end or half the sock was full of sludge which if you have this clean out your tank - impossible - but like in a dam with water and mud they will block 3/4 of the sock and still be able to suck through, some people see the long sock and think that the new pump with a short sock will only suck 3/4 of a tank of fuel and run out now with a shorter sock - not gonna happen unless you mount the pump 1/4 of the way up that steel bracket. Hope this helps most socks will fit the walbro and other universal in tank pumps - be sure to use the rubber surround and cable tie the pump - I also used the rubber base plate and cable tied it into place as well.
Another one in discussions is that some people ask about the wiring in the tank and worrying about sparks and earth in fuel - dont stress their is no metal or earth other than the earth wire - use the standard terminals they give you with insulation - you wont get spark jump from the terminals unless you have serious amps like tig welding or coil packs and dodgy wiring - the wire is submerged in fuel so no spark jump - I used solder and heatshrink and small cable ties to clean wire to bracket and the tank is not earthed or made of steel.
Intercooler Piping
This was a matter of choosing the right bends and pipe size for the application - I found a company AUCXRACING where you can choose 6 bends of any degree and size, 6 silicone hose joins of any type and 12 T Bolt Clamps all for $119.00 - I chose 3" all the way as it was easier and less reduction from turbo to throttle body, just took maybe 20 minutes after everything was ready and in place for the piping to work out bends and silicone joins - with this front facing manifold and R33 with the Top Mount GTX3582 - 80mmID T/B was 3 1/2" to 3" Straight Reducer 70Degree from T/B downwards then AFM into 90degree - 90degree into intercooler - from the turbo to intercooler is 2 1/2" to 3" 90degree Silicone Bend Reducer to 90degree into straight silicone 3" into straight 3" BOV Adaptor with straight silicone on each end then 90 and 90 into intercooler. Bottom line was 1 x 70degree 3" Alloy Bend and 5 x 90Degree Bends
Oil Return Line from turbo
This was custom manufactured to suit the GTX3582R in the position I have it - I wanted as much steel tube from the turbo to the return inlet on the stock pipe - here is what I had done - on the stock turbo it has a 45deg oil return tube on the turbo end - I cut the standard mounting bracket/flange off and now I have a perfect 45deg bend for this setup - I traced the new GTX3582 oil return flange size onto some mild steel plate and cut and drilled out - took about 5 minutes - then for the rest of the steel tubing on the standard R33 RB25det as below in image marked in red - cut this off and used for the rest - I welded the 2 pipes together - the joins length and angle was dead inline with the oil return on the engine - Now I dont need to stress on rubber tubing too close to turbo - it has about 150mm section of rubber right down the bottom.
Or you can buy this type - In the kit I purchased it was manufactured for GTX3582R for RB25det but only had the Oil Feed, Water Feed and Water Return all in braided - but missed the kit with the oil return - so just used some brains and manufactured - good to have all the tools
Turbo Smart Wastegate - Hypergate 45mm
Anyone needing to setup with manual dual stage see below - switch in car on accessory power
There are many other small mods done while putting the new upgrades on like dump pipe using stock 3" and adding only a couple of extra insert pieces with the 4bolt flange, AFR wideband install, screamer, water hoses under the plenum, injector loom extension and fitting the EV1 plugs, the PCV valve has a dummy tube plugged doesn't actually do anything all vents through catch to inlet, removed all AC unit components,
Injector loom on the underside of the plenum - I found it easier to run the injector loom down between the runners as in image feed the back three then the front three - trying to run the whole loom from the front or under the side down near the fuel filter side is impossible with all the piping and IAC and other - also front is very restrictive with the water neck - you will need to extend the injector plugs with wiring to have the loom on the underside of the plenum
Removed factory boost solenoid located near power steering bottle and sensor - ECU does not require these at all they are only for factory boost setting for the stock turbo and the sensor on the drivers side just near the brake booster is only for the factory boost gauge.
Hopefully I caught some things in here for anyone upgrading or using certain parts in their builds.
I will also put up the Dyno runs when I have them all together - there are a few numbers but with the sticking throttle at tuning along with the wastegate boost creep obviously we know it is no way safe to run the full testing - at moment has 225kw with 351nm and the second reading was 298kw with 450nm - boost was coming on at about 2500rpm - from 4000 to 5500rpm was 15psi and held through to 5500 rpm then from 5500 to the 6500rpm was 24psi - and in the time it takes to see this and take off throttle is very quick
I think with the next tuning day the low boost will hit the same mark and stabilize right through the full rev range
The second boost or high boost setting should hit the full mark between 4500 to 5000rpm as the linear curve in theory from looking at my sheet will continue along this curve line.
Around January 11th to 12th should be the next tuning day and will upload results