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  1. I appreciate the insight there, Ill take a look at the bosch ones and put them on the list, unless somebody else has a sufficient reason for me not to added these to my personal list in place of the dw1000s https://www.speedingparts.com/p/fuelsystem-an-fittings/fuel-system/injectors/injectors-1588/bosch-injector-980cc.html
  2. Also, is there any information regarding the following Single turbo conversion kit? If I understand correctly, this kit would eliminate the need for the dump pipes, downpipe, meet my power requirement, and free up some engine bay space . That being said, while I have stumbled across some vids on YouTube and such of these kits existing, I have yet to hear any reviews regarding them, or really see any forum posts referencing them. https://www.spectrummotorsportssolutions.com/products/copy-of-gt-r-rb26-single-turbocharger-kit?variant=42509135642802 Looking at the SR61 with Vband top mount, no recirc should be sufficient for power goals from what i have gathered, and if I am right about the removal of some of the other parts on the list exhaust wise, it effectively reduces cost by like 1400 dollars with the removal of the tomei dump pipes and mines downpipe from the list.
  3. As for the oil pump, I am looking at the Nitto Sine drove oil pump with crank collar , totaling around 1200 bucks
  4. So looking at the upgraded sumps, and then presumably an uprated oil pump, the two sumps I'm between are RIPS , and the Trust extended sumps. Links below. I know RIPS has a good reputation around here, and from what I gathered, they are standup people, and quite competent . Trust / Greddy seem to be the most common that I have encountered on the different forums. It is worth noting, I have a driveway of shale, which can cause clearance issues at times depending on how beat up the weather makes it. I Have seen at least one case of the TRUST sump having issues with getting the bolt ripped out from a pothole, though I believe this was a slightly lowered vehicle that I noted the post from. At the moment I'm leaning RIPS , but would like to get feedback from anybody with experience
  5. First I’ve heard anything about the front diff. I’m aware and fully expecting the hoses, hopefully the gaskets are included in the “full engine rebuild gasket kit” I gave listed in the parts . sump I figured was one I’d end up needing to do. Sump and baffle is something you see on every build list, I just need to find out what one I actually need and what kits are good out there . if I was to worry about the front diff , what exactly am i looking to change here ? Generally looking up front dif upgrades for skyline basically only showed me a bunch of links for Greddy front dif covers and a forum post where some guys were arguing saying it’s not necessary . But as for a actual part/kit of some sort , or at least an explanation of why it’s a good idea, I really haven’t seen anything to help make that decision
  6. I’ll reach out and see if I can cancel it , but it was long enough ago that the order was placed im likely stuck with it . I’m not going to die on the hill that it has to be used though, I only saw it suggested once or twice and saw it before I found a good OEM fan . Upon this warning , I actually did find and order a stock OEM replacement fan today.
  7. Lol, I mean if it gets hot, I’ll def change it. Unfortunately it’s already been ordered, I don’t have the luxury of canceling it at the moment. I’m not saying it’s sufficient , especially as parts get put on. But I imagine even for a few weeks it’s better to have it on for the drive to work than something that looks like it’s about to explode at any moment with the size of the cracks in my current stock one.
  8. Northeast US, in PA, so rarely a “tropical” style of heat present . Doubtful I’ll have those issues
  9. My intent is to pull the engine and do a full rebuild. As such, parts of this build are listed to include this. I am aware this is just a portion of what overall will cost , as labor and machining are needed, which is why I’m trying to make a cumulative list of parts with prices so that I can ascertain what should get completed once the engine comes out. Ideally I would like to do gaskets, stroker, and turbos in one go , as staying with twins would make turbos difficult to swap out, and the stroker kit obviously would require the engine removal as well. With that, there are obviously bare minimum requirements that would need to be met to make this operable , aside from a tune, the fuel system immediately comes to mind. Things like the inter cooler can likely be pushed off a little further , the upper exhaust piping again being something likely something best done with engine out , as well as clutch. As you can see just with those few things I’m facing several thousands up front , even if I didn’t do the stroker . The things I’m looking for at the moment are essentially reviewing if the choices I made are acceptable parts , if they are obviously under or over kill for 500whp , etc , as well if there are things I need that I am clearly missing , for example I’ve seen mention of bearings , rings , seals, but am unsure what is all covered under the stroker kit . It obviously comes with the crank, and forged pistons , but the exactly what all that I may not have accounted for is my big concern at the moment .
  10. Hey guys, I know this style of thread has likely been made something like a million different times, but I have spent a large handful of hours on multiple different forums , and I am creating this one to try and gather all of my information in one place to hopefully help me put myself in a good situation once the engine comes out where I can take care of as much as I can in one swipe. My apologies for those of you who are tired of these threads in advance, but at the risk of cluttering the threads with another one of these, if it keeps me from spending thousands of dollars in improper places, its worth the risk . My goal for this vehicle is APPROX 450-500WHP, but it is not a particular hard goal, at the end of the day everybody likes those clean numbers, but what is important to me is a streetable reliable car with good torque for spirited street driving. This may see Minor track time, as it was recently brought to my attention there is a local track, but there will not be any track racing , just may want to get the lead foot urges out of my system once and a while. This vehicle will be running only pump gas, no race gas or E85. Presently Intending on staying twin turbo. Small recap of current state of vehicle 1995 Nissan Skyline GTR presently running the following -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Haltech 2500 ECU with CAN wideband O2 setup ARC intake ( i understand this isnt a particular " upgrade" as the stock is fine from what I've gathered, but its a pretty sweet part, so i had to jump at the chance) R35 "Nissan GTR" coil conversion Kakimoto test pipe and racing exhaust ( i believe it is the Kakimoto Racing GT1.0Z) Compression around 140s on all cylinders Haltech 3 port Boost control Solenoid Haltech air temp sensor ( required to be upgraded for use of haltech 2500 system) New fuel filter ( not really relevant, but it was replaced so I'm putting it here so it doesn't get suggested, unless It is necessary for some reason even though it has less than an oil change worth of time on it) Timing chain changed at 86000km , engine currently sitting at approx 160k Km (intent to change when engine is out) Upgraded GKTech Engine fan ( stock has significant cracks in it, would prefer not to have a grenade in my engine bay, just ordered so not in yet) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- While doing the little work we have done to this point, I have noticed a few things about the vehicle. The previous owner looks like he must have been in the engine bay at one point or another and did a poor job at making sure everything was back where it should be. When it was first purchased, I experienced some misfires under boost, and wrote it off to needing the coils replaced, or the ignitor or something of the like going bad. Whilst going over it, and trying to get some stuff sorted on the tuning end I had located several boost leaks or lines not connected, as well as the ground on the ignitor ( which has since been bypassed due to the coil conversion upgrade ) , was disconnected. The fuel pressure regulator vacuum line was disconnected, and a handful of lines had been dry rotted/ needed replaced. While the car seems to be in pretty good shape by way of minimal rust or obvious concerns at first glance, the little work we have already done has proven to me that it would be unwise to put any significant work into it without doing my due diligence in having the engine refreshed and all of the lines reviewed/ replaced as necessary. The last thing I want to do is put a significant amount of money into this vehicle for performance mods and have something fail catastrophically due to basic maintenance neglect. These findings have lead me to where I am presently. My intents at this time are to try and get as many " big things" done with the engine out as I can , while also giving the engine a proper once over, giving it a fresh set of gaskets, some new head studs, etc. I will add a list of parts below that I presently have picked out, many of which coming from a build list I had created somewhere around 6-7 years ago when I purchased the vehicle ( but prior to its legalization in the US , so prices and availability may have changed---(in fact I've found a large amount of parts I previously had picked out are no longer listed/ available on many websites, which is partially the reasoning for this thread) I will the list of parts with what I am presently having issues finding/ need help with choosing, Then start with parts that I have found with links and prices. Any input on if it is overkill, not enough, or if things are being double purchased is welcome, as I dont want to have a significant amount of leftover parts when I am completed . Money , as is usually is the case, is a factor, but there are some things i do want with significant cost that I realize I do not need, but have included it because I know that I want them, and would prefer to buy them and have them installed while the engine is out instead of having to go through this process again in the near future. All Prices listed with parts are in USD, and do not include shipping, which depending on location of sourcing may cause relevant price increase. Some prices may have changed since previously notating when original list was made) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Turbos- This is a big question mark for me at the moment. Previously I had spoken with Geoff from Full race, and was considering to trying out the twin efr6258 kit that Full race had previously had on their site. Looking back at that parts list, that kid had been upwards of 6.5k USD, so it was a bit expensive, and over the years it appears this kit is nowhere to be found. Previously I had been looking at Garret -5s , but during our discussion , it appeared that the BW EFR 6258 setup was superior to it. Feel Free to suggest anything that will land me in around my power goals with the rest of the setup. Supertec Spline drive Oil Pump- Over on the GTR UK forums, this seems to be a very highly suggested kit, and at the time was quoted around $700 USD from member FRRacer, who seemed to be , at least at the time, a very active and knowledgeable member. Upon viewing their websites, It seems they have been out of stock for a while, and am unsure if they are still in circulation. Oil pump, as I'm sure everybody who has taken a few minutes to research is aware, is a common point of failure with the RB , so I am def looking into SOMETHING here, but am not sure just how much is necessary. I know some of the higher capacity pumps can have issues with not returning oil quick enough, requiring an upgraded sump/ baffle. I'm not totally opposed to this if it is necessary, but obviously if it isn't necessary for street driving/ my power goals, It would be nice to avoid the extra money in fab work/ parts. Let me know just how far into this rabbit hole I need to go. HKS Step 0 2.8 stroker kit- I know this isn't necessary, but it is one thing I would very much like to do, and as such, need to make sure the rest of the build lines up appropriatly. https://www.nengun.com/hks/stroker-kit-nissan-rb26dett-28l-step-zero $3817 Valves/Springs- Its my assumption these should be replaced as they are likely the OEM ones, nearly 30 years old. I've read just a new set of stock ones are sufficient with Poncams, but i would like any advise/ links to what would be suggested to facilitate budgeting. Unsure if the existence of a stroker kit will change requirements here. Supertech valvesprings/retainers https://rawbrokerage.com/collections/rb26dett-valvetrain/products/supertech-single-valve-spring-kit-70-lbs-rb26dett ($595) Fuel Rail- Is it necessary to upgrade from stock fuel rail? I've seen one from Tomei for something around the 400 USD mark, which would allow for the addition of a fuel pressure sensor, as I don't believe the stock fuel rail has a place to install one, but if it isn't needed, I'm not opposed to skipping over this. Fuel pump- Previously when discussing the potential for e85, The Walbro 416lph fuel pump from full race was suggested, I have since strayed from E85, but I still like Walbro's price significantly more than the " big brands" like tomei and the like, sitting at over 600usd. The kit Geoff had suggested, again is no longer on their website, but i did find a 400lph one on there, and it is still significantly cheaper. Link posted below, any issues with running this ? There was also some posts regarding orientation of stock pump being at a 45 degree angle, where a lot of aftermarkets will mount at a 90 degree angle, preventing reach to bottom of fuel tank. Feel Free to offer experience/advice here. https://www.full-race.com/walbro-400-lph-universal-in-tank-fuel-pump ($125) Fuel Pressure regulator- In the same vein as the above two, if upgrading fuel system, I am assuming a fuel pressure regulator upgrade would be prudent. The following kit was the fist one I ran across. If not necessary, feel free to advise. This appears to also address the need for a place to tap in a fuel pressure gauge, which may or may not help with answering the need of an uprated fuel rail. https://www.enjukuracing.com/products/aeromotive-fuel-pressure-regulator-kit-for-nissan-ka-sr-rb.html ($319) 1000CC fuel injectors ( should be enough, is this cc overkill? seems like most sets of 6 are in this price range anyway) https://rawbrokerage.com/products/deatschwerks-injectors-1000cc-rb26dett?_pos=1&_sid=67fa5c736&_ss=r ($569.00) Rb26 OEM timing belt- self explanatory, Its out so might as well replace it https://rawbrokerage.com/collections/rb26dett-timing-belts/products/nissan-oem-rb20-rb25-rb26-timing-belt ($70) RB26 Full Rebuild Gasket set https://www.enjukuracing.com/products/oem-nissan-rb26dett-full-engine-rebuild-gasket-kit.html ($470) Greddy Oil filter relocation + Cooler set ( necessary at power goals? , obviously not a bad thing to have, but if not needed, can skip) https://www.rhdjapan.com/trust-greddy-oil-cooler-filter-relocation-kit-10-row-bcnr33.html ($598) Water Pump- I see this on nearly every rebuild suggestion, I believe i do still have stock ( nearly 30 year old) Water pump, though its not showing any signs of issues with temp control. I'm going to assume this is prudent to change, but let me know if it isn't as big of a deal as it seems to have made out to be) Likely going to stay stock, as high revs isn't particularly something I intend to be doing often, stock seems to be documented fine at these power goals. Also, what is up with the wild price differences in stock pumps? These OEM pumps seem to be anywhere between 400 usd, to under 200? If purchased, likely looking at the following for a direct OEM replacment. https://store.sp-power.com/products/nissan-oem-water-pump-replacement-rb25-and-rb26 ($115) Koyo Race Radiator http://www.rawbrokerage.com/koyo-race-radiator-for-nissan-skyline-gtr-r33/ ($375 +19shipping) Arc Intercooler ( unnecessary probably, def cheaper options available, but it just looks too nice...) https://www.rhdjapan.com/arc-brazing-intercooler-smic-m073-bcnr33.html ($1036.76) ats carbon clutch - Some have suggested nismo clutch, but was advised around 500whp they are unable to properly be utilized. https://www.nengun.com/ats/carbon-clutch ($1822.64) ARP Head Stud Kit https://rawbrokerage.com/products/arp-202-4207-head-stud-kit-rb26dett ($299.00) Tomie Poncam 260 type B https://www.nengun.com/tomei/poncam-camshafts ($466.38) Tomei Adjustable cam gears (intake and exhaust) https://www.hioctanedirect.com/tomei-adjustable-cam-gear-nissan-rb20-rb25-rb26 ($307.76) Tomei Oil Galley Orifice Restrictor for RB26- ( Operating under the assumption i only need to buy one of these. I understand their use, but not the install process) https://rawbrokerage.com/products/tomei-oil-galley-orifice-restrictor-rb20-rb25-rb26-rb30 ($6.30) Tomei Dump pipes - If the BW kit was available, was said to eliminate the need for these, but until i hear something new from fullrace, assuming that an alternative kit will probably need something along these lines, let me know if its unnecessary, as it is an expensive enough part... https://justjap.com/products/tomei-full-cast-turbo-outlet-dump-pipe-set-fits-skyline-r32-r33-r34-gtr-c34-stagea-260rs-rb26dett?currency=USD ($857) Mines Stainless downpipes https://www.nengun.com/mines/front-pipe-pro ($574) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This concluded my list of parts I have come up with at the moment. The total , without accounting for shipping, which could still increase price significantly, as well as labor, machine work, etc, ending up around $13500 , obviously also excluding the cost of the need for fresh fluids / oil , etc, as well as excluding the cost of turbos in its entirety. As I am not made of money, Ill likely have to split this up into Must have with engine out, and tolerable to do with engine in, but with any luck, and some insight from you guys, I may be able to remove some things from the list, or replace with different options. I understand that this was quite the lengthy post, and I appreciate those of you who took the time to review it, and thank in advance those of you who contribute into helping me build a vehicle I am truly proud to own. Looking forward to your insight. I will attach the list of parts in a text document if anybody would like to review it in a different format, or make changes to it for me to consider. 2023 updated skyline build document.txt
  11. I have read some about the RB30, but have not ventured down that road as far as what it would take to get one, or transplant anything rb30 related into the R33. I agree with it being a low power gain for a lot of cash, but it is kind of about building an even more fun out of an already fun GTR, while also future proofing myself for future power goals, and maintaining reliability. I would absolutely love to someday have an 800hp + GTR, but my current goals for it range closer to the 450-500 whp.
  12. Well after some research and speaking with Geoff from fullrace , i believe i would like to go with the Borg Warner EFR kit that fullrace offers. Spoiler will contain latest parts list. Geoff pointed out i will likely need to upgrade from the Nismo clutch to a stage three to prevent slipping, which kind of stinks for drivability, as im sure i will be spending a lot of time behind the wheel, but i would prefer to buy what i need once, so i suppose it isnt a bad idea. He also mentioned the need for some 1300cc injectors ( as opposed to my 1200cc) for the e85 tune. Feel free to mention any concerns you have with my list. Looking for 450ish whp , so i believe this setup gives me good response and is more than capable of this power level. Car only used for street, no track or courses.
  13. i see you noticed my boost virginity. My bad, took a quick google to see that the difference was the mediums in which they cool, radiator being coolant, and intercooler being air . Thanks for pointing that out haha Koyo Racing Radiator added to master list on my pc, will definitely add it to one of my top top purchases. Actually , quick question for anybody. Will the upgraded oil pump work appropriately without the Haltech in first? I imagine it would, but Im sure somebody here knows better than i do.
  14. as for the HPI vs Tomei , the reason i had chosen Tomei was from a comment made on another forum when comparing options "HPI`s are ok. Tomei have a larger inner diameter. Midori Seibi have the largest inner Diameter. If the HKS with divided pipes are really better, no one knows. HKS says yes, Tomei no." -mhhforyou from the GTR UK forums
  15. appreciate the insight @Birds will keep what you said in mind while purchasing parts. As to the intercooler thing, any reason specifically you suggest an aluminum one? out of all the intercooler kit options on RHDJapan , the arc seems to be one of the cheaper ones provided i dont go with Greddy, and even some of those get expensive.
  16. @Birds the cams and stroker kit were kind of placed in there for post engine death and rebuild , as i am sure when i have to build again, ill have upgrade fever and forged internals and cams seemed to be a smart idea if venturing to above 500whp. @Robzilla32 ill look into the map MAF thing, honestly every build thread i saw said upgrade afm (provided they could have not been using a MAP setup) so i threw them in there for peace of mind. Debating on going with a stainless downpipe to the tomei exhaust just to shed a 500ish dollars. Ill look into the higher tier fuel pump thing too, as your the first one so far that has suggested it being an issue . (not to say you're wrong, and i would prefer to upgrade further for a little more money if it prevents any issues) Also looking into flow of hpi vs tomei , but for the time being, if tomei is cheaper, im not too concerned with a little bit of lessened flow. anything is better than whats on there right now ahah.
  17. As a quick update , after researching basically all day , i have added a good amount of parts, as well as prioritized purchase order. will add in spoiler to prevent unnecessary scrolling for others.
  18. I can relate, with getting married here in 4 months and planning the wedding, working 60+ hours a week to pay for car and parts on top of other bills, not too much time for anything right now. But somehow these cars keep calling me back, as I'm sure yours will too.
  19. Be still my heart, that is one beautiful car. Puts down some serious power too. Looking forward to following this car and its undoubtedly bright future.
  20. that would be awsome! i have since also priced out a nismo AFM, but havent gotten to add too much more to the list. Goal is 410kw so i would like to make approx 450whp . Any build thread with that , you can go ahead and send my way. I have been looking for ones with enough detail that i can follow it to a degree to come up with what I'm looking for, but surprisingly there doesnt seem to be anybody posting likes that arnt outragous 800-1000 whp goals and often after a few posts stop ( i assume because they realize the price involved)
  21. Thanks guys, definitely needs some TLC to get it where i want it, but it is a beautiful car. Not only that, but it is easily one of the most fun cars i have driven. @drunken0elf yeah it isnt easy to wait, but the way i see it, if R33s come up in price the way 32s and 34s already have, i got this for a steal. Might as well use these next 3 years to turn her into a finished product, that way when i get her home, she is ready to show the boys stateside what a real car runs like.
  22. Drawing Up a Build (R33 GTR) Whats up guys, just pricing out a build here and wanted to throw some prices and parts up to get a general idea of where i need to be and what all I should expect to get into coming from a completely stock, No upgrades, 1995 Skyline GTR So far, i have a relatively extensive list of parts drawn up, with links , prices, etc that are totaled to be over $15,000. My goal is to have an engine that is reliable, and puts down 450-500whp. The vehicle is not expected to be launched off the limiter, but should be able to withstand relatively frequent rolling pulls. I prefer to stay with twins, to retain stock appearance and minimize issues with law enforcement in my area. I would also like to entertain the thought of E85 tuning. Here is what i have so far.... Rb28 -- http://www.tomeiusa.com/_2003web-catalogue/e044_rb28_enginekit.html ($5280) Poncam 260 http://www.frsport.com/Tomei-143005-Poncam-Type-B-Camshafts-Set-Nissan-Skyline-GT-R-RB26DETT_p_10299.html ($522) 3.5inch catback (tomei expreme ti ? $1133.60 @ nengun) 1200c injectors http://www.andysautosport.com/products/deatschwerks__42M-01-1200-6.html ($559) Haltech ECU Platinum Pro http://store.haltech.com/usastore/plug-n-play-ecu-kits/pro-plug-in-ecus/ht-055101-platinum-pro-direct-plug-in-nissan-r32-33-skyline-kit-manual-trans-only.html ($1519) Tomei Oil Pump Upgrade http://www.frsport.com/Tomei-193035-Oversized-Oil-Pump-RB26DETT_p_15635.html ($1242) Splitfire Coils frsport.com ($470) Arc Intercooler https://www.rhdjapan.com/arc-brazing-intercooler-smic-m073-bcnr33.html ($1036.76) Nismo Twin Plate Clutch https://www.rhdjapan.com/nismo-super-coppermix-twin-plate-clutch-r34-bnr32-bcnr33.html ($1373) GARRETT GT2860R-5 TURBOCHARGER x2 http://www.rawbrokerage.com/garrett-gt2860r-5-turbocharger/ $2200 Tomei High Flow Fuel Pump Upgrade 276LPH R34 RB26 http://www.frsport.com/High-Flow-Fuel-Pump-Upgrade-276LPH-R34-RB26_p_16721.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw1a3KBRCY9cfsmdmWgQ0SJAATUZ8bnJqHs9HsDnciNtYb7uh3kfPqSpnc_WZjOcSA3wNS5xoCx8rw_wcB ($540) Valve Springs, Dump pipes, Oil Cooler, Gauges (?) ApexiGT downpipe http://www.tf-works.com/apexi-gt-downpipes-90-02-nissan-skyline-gt-r-r32-r33-r34/ ($600) I will also attach this list as a notepad file if anybody has any information of the sort that they would like to add to and repost/resend. I understand that things like the rb28 kit might be overkill , if you have any other suggestions , or can definetly say i don't need , feel free to let me know. Very much new to the skyline scene and always searching and trying to gather as much information as i can. Thank you ! Skyline Build.txt
  23. R33 GTR New Owner Hey guys, My fiance and i made the jump into the Skyline world last weekend by purchasing this 1995 Nissan Skyline GTR. As it sits , it is essentially completely stock with a few minor things that i need to address ( front lip, boot seal, the side lights are missing, etc) but overall I must say i am beyond excited to have another project vehicle. That being said, we are located in the United States, and the vehicle , due to importation laws , must stay in Canada until it reaches 25 years of age ( or is brought up to compliance, which i would prefer not waste money on) I have been pretty much been spending all of my time of this forum trying to absorb as much knowledge from it as possible, as this is not only my first Skyline, first import, but also my first boosted vehicle. Looking forward to speaking with the lot of you guys! I suppose for the sake of mentioning , the vehicle has approx 85k miles (140.000km) on the Odometer, but i have heard that Odometers are frequently swapped out, so i am unable to verify true miles. The vehicle suffers from misfire under rapid acceleration, under boost especially, but i attribute this to the 4 year old gas that was in it when i purchased the vehicle, and the (as far as i know) original coils in it. My intentions are to place Splitfire coils in it asap, i have ran about a half of tank through it from buying point to storage facility, and that had helped some of the misfiring but not resolved completely. New plugs and fluids are in the near future as well, but my time was limited my previous trip and I was unable to complete everything i had desired to. My goals long term for this vehicle ( aside from aesthetics) is to get it running between 400-450whp and spooling by 4.5k rpm . I have seen a handful of people posting things regarding E85 (which is flexfuel in my country if i interpret the forums correctly) and getting some impressive dyno numbers, so that is also something I am interested in reading more about. If anybody has any build threads they could suggest , i would appreciate it ! (Trust that i will also be utilizing the search function, but if you are feeling generous ) Thanks Guys, Looking forward to being part of the family! PS. Before anybody mentions it, My intentions are to fix issues, refresh engine where possible, and then upgrade , try to start a racecar's life at 100,00 miles. I have nearly 3 years before i can drive it to the states, so i have plenty of time to work on and address issues.
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