**JaR**

if cash is your problem and you really want a skyline, maybe you should try a personal loan ( im assuming your old enough to get one if your looking for a car ), if you do decide on a personal loan then make sure you are 100% able to re-pay the loan, if you cant.... then look for a cheaper car for now and buy a skyline when you can afford it B)

lol yeah that i'll agree with, simply coz its got a GTR badge prices are nuts i dunno about rim sizes affecting hicas/attessa?? wouldnt changing rim sizes only affect the speedo reading like on any other car?

lol buy the origianl instead.... its worth the money as far as im concerned, theres no other racing sim games on the market that are as realistic, sure it pisses you off that the car you drive isnt available lol, but theres like a billion other choices, and as for the drifting thing, like others said, it depends on how you set up your suspension and tyre choice etc, if you jst wanna have lame drifts play nfsug2 the only real problem i have with the game, is that you cant make cars into the race versions like on 1 and 2, apart from that.... love it. im like 60% through the game at the moment, has anyone actually got 100% yet??? i assume its extremely hard to achieve, GT2 and that are bitch hard to get 100% in B)

go no wing, R32's without a wing look HOT

yeah same, although ford and holden are making "performance" cars now, they really arent up to scratch with the rest of the world yet, a performance car has to do that... perform, sure fpv and hsv have made cars that can keep up with other cars from japan and europe in a straight line, but on a track, where suspension, braking, power to weight etc all come into play, nothing hsv or fpv have to offer could compare to GTR-s and such from tuning houses in japan.....

if your referring to me, i'd be 18 and im not a keyboard warrior, i was just stating my opinion, i believe that if you spent an extra 2 or 3 thousand and bought a turbo variant as opposed to naturally aspirated, you'd have a car that looks as good as it goes...

so true, i'd still do it just to have it but lol, but i dont have a spare 100 thousand lyin around

oh really, awsome i didnt know that one. well im 2 hours 32 minutes into it so far, F1 car here i come

my loan repayments are $400 a month, and i live at home still coz i only turned 18 a few months ago, i manage to pay that ezy, if your take home is 450-600 a ( fortnight??? ), just put half a pay check away one fortnight and the other away on the time the repayments due... simple. and as for those racv inspection places, if your an racv member, you call them, tell them you've got a car you want them to inspect, and they'll tell you which one is closest to you, usually they come to you, but coz the skylines turbo it has to go in for some reason. B)

ask any owner of a Nissan Skyline and they will tell you its a money pit... not maintance wise but eventually that modifying bug hits you and your pockets are the first thing that gets in infected

you may as well by a commodore if your gonna buy a non turbo skyline, the turbo R33's arent all that powerful that you cant handle them anyways, i got used of mine in a day, and before i got my car the only other turbo skyline i drove was a mate of mines round the block lol, so if you want an R33 or even R32 go turbo, you wont regret it...... unless you start modifying it

lol, did you never wonder what B Spec was dude??? its ezy, its for us lazy people who cant be f**ked racin at times, all you gotta do is tell the virtual driver when to overtake and pit in, apart from that thats it, and it works the same way as if you win the race, its great. the only races you cant do it for are the special ones like the rallies.

yeah i was plannin to do it in B Spec, f*** stayin awake for 24 hours doin the race lol, thats insane. what did u guys do about the tyre wear thing but??? coz u'd have to pit in n stuff yeah??? and yeah there is 3 24 hour races, one on nurburing 2 on sarthe, INARK mb u did the nurburing 4 hour race by mistake???

well yeah if thats the one you want, different bov's make different sounds even though most sound the same B)

it could be that black mesh insert stuff

yeah agreed with that ^^^ although i myself dont own either car i know people that own them, a mate of mine in melb has a 33 GTR and one of dads mates has an XR6T ( i dunno about the typhoon, but i seen one in a car park one day and checked it out inside and it doesnt seem to be that much different to the xr6t ), the GTR wins in every department in my opinion, and its 15yrs older, its sort of unfair to compare a 2005 model car to a 95-99 model car ( i dunno what yrs urs is ferni soz ), in terms of both interior.... of course a 2005 model car will look newer... coz it is dur, and performance.... coz its got more updated technology, but wateva the case i dont needa say anymore coz ferni's said it all B)

it looks like a Trust front bar and skirts... the rear bar looks standard, but im not 100% sure so dont hold me to it. B)

coolness. thanks for the info mate. B)

yeah agreed, whats next.... they'll try ban google from letting people type "offensive" words into its search engine pffft. the whole GTA series rocks, even the old school ones, i got em all, it'll be awsome if they release another one

yeah insurance also depends on how old you are.... me being 18, my R33 gts-t costs me like 2,500 in comp insurance, not so bad on other running costs but, fuels always gonna be expensive.... stamp duty and that goes by how much you payed for the car, not what type of car it is, rego isnt that much either, the only thing you really have to watch out for when buying any skyline is to see if its been thrashed by the previous owner.... i.e take it to an racv inspection place, they'll tell you EVERYTHING right down to theres a spec of gum on the back seat.... coz thats what it said in the report i got back from them, other than that gts-t and that arent that expensive to run compared to some other cars.

sooooo i jst got a Blitz bov... and my cars practically stock ( 3" exhaust and pod ), so its bs on the stall thing if you get someone who actually knows what there doing to put it on the car??? btw whys an aftermarket b.o.v a wank factor, alota people have them and i reckon they sound good as, plus it lets people know theres a snail under your bonnet the only wank bov around is those electric ones for non-turbo cars..... THATS a wank factor.

so how many people that play GT4 have actually completed the nurburing 24 hour, and whats the prize car for winning? i assume its oe of those gt4 F1 cars so you can complete the F1 championship??? im hoping it is anyways coz otherwise im stuck tryna win that F1 championship coz none of the cars on gt4 can beat them lol.

lol true, but the games been around for like a yr already.... heaps of people have it, plus they took the 3rd one off the shelves when it was released and then brought it back, its just to please the bitching parents

yeah it is, you needa make your car get a higher star rating, thern it'll open up a photo shoot, once you do that, it opens up more races n stuff..... how are people still clocking this game? lol ive done it twice now.... GT4 is keepin me occupied atm

why would you wanna put 21's on a skyline..... there made for like suv's n shit, 21's would look gay, in my opinion anyways. 19's would be the biggest size i'd put on a gts-t