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planetf1 spambot... how about you only post the first two if that's all we "need"

It is just another name for a sprint, no doubt. Just because they made different classes with far less rules and don't allow slicks doesn't change the fact its still a sprint event. F1 qualifying format is great. I happened upon the MotoGP qualifying last weekend and almost fell asleep... you make this too easy - there's no corners in 50m freestyle!

there's no doubt that anything that teaches car control skills helps you drive right on the limit, because you're comfortable with the car moving around and confident you can control it. The more time you spend doing that, the more instinctive it becomes. The breeding ground for car control skills always used to be motorkhanas, and to lesser extents dirt autocrosses and khanacrosses. They still are, but so is drifting. I have no doubt they help people become more skilled drivers.

aesthetic peak in 1990 IMO

he was on the normal racing line before and during the accident with Hill. Hill made the lunge because Shumacher was not quite up to speed after coming back on the track. Hill looked to the outside on the short straight then decided on a lunge up the inside. He was always going to be penalised for ignoring the black flag (unless Benetton got their way) but to be excluded for 3 races is a bit steep. All motorsport is about gleaning any little advantage you can out of the regulations. Even in club level motorsport. If the part fits the letter of the regulations, or can be argued to fit a reasonable interpretation of the regs, that's all that matters.That's motorsport, even at club level.

meh, that crash in Aus has 2 sides to the story, even moreso than most other crashes. Schumacher's light brush with the wall just before would not have instantly known he'd damaged the car so badly. And more importantly, Schumacher would have closed the door in exactly the same way whether his car was damaged or not. Hill made a desperate lunge knowing he had to beat Schumacher to win and was probably too hasty. Suck it up princess. At least it wasn't a premeditated crash taking out his only championship rival in the first corner... They also found traction control code in the 2 other teams (Ferrari and McLaren) ECUs inspected. It was probably in all the teams ECU's as it was a late rule change to ban driver aids. The point is whether it was used or not. And that applies equally to the other teams, not just Benetton & Schumacher. That's why the FIA didn't punish any of them. The driver is employed by the team. If the team tells you to stay out and keep racing while they sort out the issue with the officials, that's what you do. Being stripped of your second place and then getting a 2 race ban for it was a little excessive, particularly int he circumstances where the FIA did not follow their own proper procedure for informing the team of the penalty. You're right there's a big difference between innovation that needs clarification from the governing body and blatant cheating. Innovating engineering that makes a wing pass the tests for legality yet provides an on-track advantage is an example of what the sport is all about. Implementing a system to change gears for the driver when all driver aids are banned, is blatant cheating.

ah yes - the year Senna famously listened to all the cars for signs of traction control and came away claiming the car that won the race was cheating... When the FIA took ECU code from the 3 teams on the podium in San Marino (Benetton Ferrari and McLaren), they found traction control code in all their ECUs. Which is why they only gave them all a slap on the wrist. Schumacher kept on winning after that, infact taking his first pole at the very next race and continuing that trend for a further two races after that as well. So he didn't only go well because of illegal traction control. In fact you could easily argue the crackdown only hurt those other teams more, for some reason... hmmm And he still won the WDC despite being stripped of 2nd place in the British GP for ignoring the black flag, and later being banned from 2 races for that same offence, despite it being a team order to stay out and ignore the black flag and not the driver's decision, the team was still allowed to field a car driven by someone else. It was also the year McLaren got busted with illegal automated gearshifting btw, but were not fined. And Benetton with the fast fuelling rig, also got no penalty. It was a good year! Ferrari winning streak was the culmination of more than money and testing. Ferrari has always poured the money in but never had such dominance before then, nor since that core team left... Toyota poured in massive amounts of money in just one other example that you can't simply buy a winning streak. mmm 2005. The year of the no tyre change rule. And the year of Pirelli dominance.

sounds like a well reasoned and balanced opinion. except that schumacher didn't just win in Ferrari. And didn't just win in the Ferrari once it was the best car...

considering Senna had his hands full with Prost and Berger as team-mates? He was far from head an shoulders above everyone else in his day, let alone of all time.

I don't think its so twisted. If it were not the case, people would have been celebrating him as the greatest ever when he was alive and racing. They weren't, because at the time he and Prost were pretty evenly matched. So 'evenly' in fact, that both years they were team-mates, Prost outscored Senna.

there's nothing new or revolutionary about the AYC or DSG suggestions you made either. I think you're expecting a bit much from privateers and small tuning houses to be honest. new types of engines??? Time Attack is all about taking a road car and bolting stuff onto to it to make it faster. there were certainly some innovations on show there, and startlingly fast times for semi slicks, particularly so because alot of the fast cars are very new with SFA testing. If that's not enough, all I can say is you're pretty hard to please.

schumacher has looked pretty ordinary at times, but he was far from ordinary in the wet at Canada, passing both a Red Bull and McLaren in the wet/damp conditions. He showed there he still has something the current crop of front runners don't. Overall, its been pretty dissapointing though. Would like to see him stick it out for one more year like he signed up for. You never know what's around the corner...

whatever do you mean? lol did tuner's group or fernandez cars actually compete though?

I do like them. They're alot better than the R888's I had before. Just need more respect when they're sideways than other tyres I've used. And yes, I did crash on them My only crash on a circuit ever. And my only spin not caused by a mecanical fault since the QLD Hillclimb Championships 2003 where I lost it coming out of the second loop having just dropped a wheel off the outside of the track pushing too hard to try and get the extra tenth I needed for 2nd in class... was a pretty wild 270 spin between armco on the outside and a wooden post fence on the inside while going down a pretty steep hill. Earned me a mention in Sports Car and Racer magazine though lol But I reckon I've been very lucky at Lakeside over recent years with brake failure at the end on the front straight at over 200kph and 2 front tyre blowouts... very very lucky!

time attack don't recognise them as semi slicks. CAMS don't recognise them as semi slicks. AASA don't recognise them as semi slicks. They're not permitted in any road rallies. ANd they're not road legal. Time Attack/Superlap has always been on street tyres in Japan and here and I think that's the way it should stay. Besides, if you did allow the Hoosier R6 type of tyre, you have exactly the same problems with people using a new set of ultra soft A6's each session. Even if they banned these ultra soft tyres, the top teams would still be using a new set of Mediums each session, because they're fastest when they're brand new. That's just the nature of racing - and not just time attack. Its the same in any class of racing and rallying - those who can afford it will use new tyres as often as possible to get that slight edge. While others may just race on second-hand rubber bought off those guys up the pointy end. That's just the way motorsport is.

on a 180SX mate. Not swinging side to side, just like to stay sideways once it happens. So its more "struggled to return to gripping without backing off the throttle". eg the car is only 200rwkw, but at one stage was spinning them up in 4th gear coming onto the main straight. I just kept the foot in because that had never happened there before and I know it doesn't have the power to sustain that, but it just kept spinning the tyres and stayed sideways despite the steering input untill I got off the gas. They're good while they're gripping, but once they let go, I don't have alot of confidence in them.

congrats JP - awesome time from the big slot car! Its great to see things like the Z32 out there that aren't the first or most obvious choice for the basis of a Time Attack car doing so well. Lap looked great too - surprisingly smooth. And a big congrats to Mark in his R35 too - how good is this??? 11 12 Mark Hansen Mercury Motorsport Nissan R35 GTR PRO S2 1:33.5560 12 12 Tarzan Yamada Mercury Motorsport Nissan R35 GTR PRO S1 1:34.3370

I want to see the hammerhead at Lakeside! JapNats is coming...

because they're not semi slicks. cool vid from the Scorch Racing S15. Note the G meter... seems better in right handers - not ideal for an anti clockwise track. Also did its fast time on the second flying lap.

just comparing times to get some perspective on its pace is a perfectly natural thing to do. Eg people compare Porsche Cup to V8 Supercars, or F1 to V8 Supercars when the McLaren came to Bathurst... its not saying the cars are similar or in any way related, its just interesting to compare thier times to get somperspective of their relative speeds. next, people will be saying its silly to compare times from different drivers.

which "tuned porsche" is faster than the FIA GT3 spec car? It would be good to see a no limits Porsche built for Superlap, but I can't really see it happening.

go the RWDs! 1 10 Mitsuhiro Kinoshita Garage Revolution ( JAP ) Mazda RX7 PRO 3 3 1:30.6160* 2 2 David Empringham Sierra Sierra Mitsubishi Lancer Ev PRO 1 1 1:30.7490 0:00.1330 3 1 Tarzan Yamada Cyber Evo ( JAP ) Mitsubishi Lancer Ev PRO 3 1 1:30.8220 0:00.2060 rwd leading the Open Class too. I think that's a 2J powered 180SX? 12 55 Simon Morpowa Racing Nissan 180SX OPN 5 4 1:35.7790 0:05.1630

true, shoulda guessed it would be the quad rotor too - it has to be twice as likely to blow up

the first oil down that stopped play was a suba on the front straight and turn 1. Mad Mikes quad rotor explosion happened later...

well, these whacky aero bits certainly work... http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?06/08/2011.EAST.S1 great stuff from Mark Berry so far. Fastest Aussie and 3rd outright! 5th outright for the hammerhead S13!