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the KU36 is also alot more durable on the track than the 595SS, and the cost difference is bugger all. The KU36 will work out more cost effective for drift days.

funny, I've always found them very good in the wet, on both the Supra and Legnum.

you win wing, they are no longer 'almost double'. They were last time I was buying which was late last year. If the Kumho wasn't so cheap, the RSR would now be a decent option between roadies and semis. But if the Kumho wasn't so cheap I very much doubt the Federal would have reduced its price at all, and would still be priced out of the game. anyway, the point remains that the kumho offers very similar on-track performance for significantly less money. They last pretty well too which is an important factor for dual purpose tyres.

I dunno, there was a HDT owned Commodore in Clubsprint last year driven by a Fujitsu V8 series driver while the owners stood around in the pits...

yeah, but it was a seriously off its nuts S2000 with you at the wheel and mildly modded EVOs in Clubsprint that day. Take the Boz factor out of it and I doubt it would have been the same story. It kind of skews it a bit. what do you reckon would be faster at EC on road tyres with you at the wheel - an R35 with a couple of mild mods or that S2000?

yep, KU36 are allowed in clubsprint, but not much lightening: • Body kits are allowed • The use of a Carbon or FRP Bonnet is allowed, no other Carbon or FRP use is allowed. • Rear seats may be removed. (last year you could only do this if you had a cage) • Stereo may be removed. (last year you couldn't do this)

good thing there's classes for RWD and stuff as well! realisticly I dont think any 2wd vehicle has a chance against a good AWD vehicle in Clubsprint. Anytime where cars are traction/grip limited (eg in the wet, or when forced to run street tyres) AWD is a massive advantage. If you want to challenge the R35 in clubsprint, then a modified EVO is the only way to go IMO

so it is... I read the post he linked me too. didn't scroll further down.

funny, the price I see there is: 17" 235/45R17 94W FEDERAL 595RS-R $287.00! exactly the same as I got quoted!

na, sold that. constant awd just didn't suit my style

with only 2 weeks left to go, it doesn't look like my car will be finished in time I still have some wiring to do, fit the cage, rear gaurd mods (flares), body and paintwork, source a front bar that actually fits and various other little bits and pieces.

The way you see it is wrong. The Auto chassis is rated to tow 1600kg standard, 2300kg with the optional towing pack which includes things like a load levelling kit to help make the chassis safely handle the extra weight. Even then the auto has a puny 160kg maximum towball download, manual's chassis is even lower at a pathetic 120kg! Get an auto with the optional towing pack - there is a reason Ford engineers bothered designing it!

but you went out and bought a trailer for the 6 times a year you use the racecar? doesn't have to be a 4WD or F150 guzzler to be rated to tow 2000kg. And my "guzzler" uses 12l/100km around town! Good luck getting that from a turbo Falcon!

ffs, the cars are as near as is possible to being identical! same weight, same gearing, same wind resistance, same engine specs. they're both built to the same set of rules, by the same team! are you suggesting that if one of those identical engines had 20bhp more, that's enough to accellerate an identically 1250kg Commodore fast enough to make up 0.9 of a second in the 19 seconds it takes to run down conrod alone???

they won't need as much camber as stickier dedicated track tyres. and with their softer construction, they will be less sensitive to geometry changes as well. ie you won't get much benefit for running an extra degree. really, just good performance road car settings will be fine.

so you plan to exceed your towing capacity by at least 25%. good idea, what could possibly go wrong? and your biggest concerns are clutch and unis? legality, safety and insurance don't even rate a mention. I wish cops actually targetted real safety issues like these rather than putting speed cameras on highway on-ramps...

I think you need to listen to it again. all that stuff in my previous post is what the commentators said. I didn't just make it up. eg: commentators about Brock's split time: "fastest time at forest elbow, one minute thirty" commentators about Perkins split time, after talking him up for the whole lap about how smooth he was and that's why he's going to be faster than Brocky's ragged lap: "split time to the elbow was a thirty point nine, so...<insert pregnant pause>... No a thirty! So quickest so far" and what do you know, after doing identical speeds down Conrod (277.9 vs 277.8kph), Brock was 0.9 up at the finish line. I think the original 30.9 split for Perkins was correct, the commentators just couldn't accept it... the identical terminal speeds say more about the equivalence of their engines than any theorising about which may have had more power...

they shoulda stuck with the power assisted clutch like my 88 GQ TD42 has instead!

1600kg towing capacity...

brocky at his peak was an awesome driver. 87 Bathurst VL in the wet is my favourite!

practice and race engines were the same spec, the race engine would be a fresh one for the 1000km race, vs Brock's well used practice engine... I doubt that was a disadvantage for Perkins! In fact Perkins top speed on Conrod was 277.9, Brocky 277.8 so how can you suggest Brock made up all his time down Conrod??? split time at Forest Elbow was a 1:30 for Brock and they originally said 30.9 for Perkins, but there was some confusion over it and they changed their minds to a 30 as well, probably because they were so convinced his smoother lap was going to be faster as they had been saying all the way through it. Maybe they just didn't want to be proven wrong on national television...

the requirement for a safety cage depends on the type of event permit. If its just a multiclub supersprint permit, then Schedule J allows non-complying cages as long as the chief scrutineer doesn't think its unsafely constructed. If its state level or national permit and your car is unreg, then it would have to be a CAMS compliant cage. Anyone know what status this event is?

bah, watch and learn... OK, so Brocky was a little looser than ideal in a couple of spots, but if you want to squeeze every last tenth out of it for a single fastest lap, you have to walk that line. The very start of the video is what sums it up best for me; Brocky coming onto the pit straight with the car looking nice and smooth, yet the driver sawing at the wheel - perfectly on the edge!

lol, what do you mean "still"? That was last Thursday genius, and only a matter of hours after your post. I'm sorry I wasn't on here in the middle of the night to respond to your 11pm comment. wow... that's really quite odd, because you're the only one who's saying "double the performance". have NFI what they 'cost' you, but they retail for $287 at the best price you'll find advertised up here from the retailer recommended by the QLD distributor - I know you want to make sure you are getting "proper australian" ones! lol That's a whopping $43 cheaper than the last time I got a price on them - shoot me! But still $123 more per tyre than a KU36 at $164. And still not a great deal better than double the price if you ask me. In fact one might say it's "almost" double the price, eh? 360 is not almost the same as 330? where did I say half the performance? read what you're quoting ffs. its a colloquialism mate. didn't mean to confuse you... but what can you expect from a bloke who thinks 360 isn't almost 330? deadset _Wing_nut_!

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