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I am not trying to defend supra's, I am just saying, if you are going to make points, at least make them worth while. Also, the GT series was dominated by Supra's, but, that is kinda unfair in saying, because the GTR's couldnt use 4WD, and the Supra's didnt use the 2JZ-GTE. I like the GTR, I have had 3 skylines, the skyline is a more 'throwable' car, but, when it comes to top speed, and handling at top speed, the supra feels much more at home than the GTR (that is stock for stock), after modifications, well, I guess it comes down to has the biggest bank account, and the best team of engineers really...

That is the best option I think, a built RB30 bottom on the RB25, my mate just did one, it costs about the same as the second hand 2JZ-GTE, and I am guessing will hold the same power as a 2JZ-GTE. I wouldnt bother trying to get a 2JZ-GTE into an R33, although, I have always wanted to put one in an RX7 and show up to a Mazda cruise... just to you know, cause some trouble.

Sydney kid, you are really strange indeed... some of your comments actually fried my mind. "The Supra problem is quite simple, it is 2wd and yet weighs the same as a 4wd GTR. So they will never be comparable, the GTR wins easily on traction." Now, that comment is pretty unusual to start with, now, the RZ-S TT Supra is 1490kg, has a wider wheel base, and comes with 9.5" width tyres. Sure, the GTR will win with traction at 280ps, but how about at 800ps? is 4WD an advantage, or massive disadvantage?, I mean, the worlds fastest street tyre supra is 7.90 at 180mph, and people have no problems on the track, the Japanese sure didnt in the GT series. Look at GTR-700 for example, he has spent enough money on that car to buy a few houses, and he still cant break a 7, heck, he cant even drive his own car, and claims the RB26 to be the best production engine ever, even though his doesnt even resemble the item that was produced in the factory. "If you compare the Supra with a GTST the GTST wins because they are 250 kgs lighter." That comment is just mentally retarded, the lightest GTST is the R32 which is 1320kg, not 1240kg, and also makes no power at all, has no torque, and has very little room for power upgrades, of course, without spending 8 times the value of the car. "The other notable issue is not the inside of a 2JZ, it's all the CRAP stuff on the outside. For example it's a doddle to get 600 bhp out of a standard RB26 exhaust manifold, no chance with a standard 2JZ exhaust manifold. It's a piece of cake to get 500 bhp out of a standard GTR intercooler. try that with a standard Supra intercooler." Now, that is interesting indeed, a T4 turbo manifold for the 2JZ-GTE starts at $600, that isnt a very big upgade, and, also to note, there are several peopl ethat have broken into the 10 second bracket on the standard twin turbo setup in the states, and they have also produced 550 genuine hp. The GTR cooler is quite a gem indeed, but, the stock Supra one will hold 400hp without any issue, you do realise it is 135mm deep? and also, what does an upgade cooler cost these days... $1000 fitted, tops, unless of course, you are you and get ripped off. "GTR's regulary run low 9's on road radials with a standard inlet manifold/plenum, like hell that's gunna happen with the standard Supra rubbish. Shall I get into diff's? Fancy a turbo comparison?" GTR's dont regulary run in the low 9 second bracket period, they also dont use the standard inlet manifold, and they also dont use the standard 'plenum', or pistons, or rods, or turbos, or injectors, or rarely intercooler, or rear diff, or clutch, or standard driveshaft, supra's however, do regulary run in the 9 second bracket with the standard gearbox, standard rear end, standard diff, oh hang on, im speaking shit? www.wotm.com woops, looks like I wasnt. And, as I mentioned above, 7.90 at 180mph, street tyres, no Skyline has even run 7.90 yet, not even HKS's 1100kg shell that doesnt even resemble a GTR. "You gotta look at the big picture, not just the up and down bits. If you spend the same amount of money on a GTR it will always be faster than a Supra with the same amount of money spent on it, who cares where the money is spent." I did look at the big picture, a 1995 Supra with bigger brakes than the GTR costs $5000 less than a 1995 model R33 GTR, now, you do realise that 1000hp on an internally standard engine isnt uncommon for the 2JZ-GTE right?, I mean, you have been to www.to4r.com havent you ? I am sure you have, as you have seen the bigger picture, as I did, now, $10,000 later, I have 447rwkw, and I even had enough money for an ORC Twin plate carbon fibre clutch. How much does an RB26 cost that will hold 1000hp?, well, I would say *AT* least $10,000, now, with $15,000 on top of the Supra, just because people for some reason want the GTR more ($5000 more infact), you dont have much left to go before you go "oh hang on, I have almost spent the amount of the car, just to make reliable, big horsepower." Lacking education isnt your fault, it is everybody elses fault, it isnt your fault you didnt know about www.to4r.com, www.sound-performance.com, www.horsepowerfreaks.com, www.wotm.com, www.sp-power.com, hey, it isnt even your fault you missed out on the strongest, and one of the best looking cars to ever come out of japan, it isnt even your fault you dont own one, hey, maybe you just dont care about price vs performance. I mean, back to the topic of that comparison, if you go to http://www.webamuse.co.jp/jza80_list.html and also remember how he said "this power upgrade only costs 500,000 yen (under $6000), it makes you feel kinda sick in the stomach when you go to the http://www.mines-wave.com/ and notice that a built engine on it's own is 1,890,000 yen ($21,511 AUD). I mean, that setup there costs 4,611,130 yen = $52,527 and only makes 600ps, that isnt even the machine they showed in their clip, I wonder how much it would cost to replicate the one they actually used? Dont get me wrong, I like Skylines, I have had 3 now, but, the Supra is just a better performance machine from the factory, hey, 1520rwhp by Marko is better than any of the GTR's to date, sure, it is 3.4 litres, but who's counting. Cheers.

hehe yeah, I love it when people compare skylines to supra's and forget that a supra can make 500rwkw (dyno dynamics) with a standard bototm end and *ANY* model skyline would need a complete rebuild to get even close to that number, it is funny though, and it always will be funny people comparing like the MINES skyline with a normal skyline, kinda like comparing a Nissan Micra with a Nissan Skyline, I mean, if you put $500,000 into the micra, im sure it would be fast also. http://www.to4r.com/

does anyone know where race pace is ? or what their number is ? or if they have a website? I cant find them in the yellow pages. someone email it to me [email protected] Thanks!

R33 is 250ps, not 250hp. 250 ps = 183.88kw 250 hp = 186.43kw 250 hp = 246.58kw R32 GTSt is 215ps, not 215hp 215 ps = 158.13kw -------------------------- This unit (German: Pferdestärke = horse strength) is still commonly used in Germany and central Europe, although not an lawful unit any more. 1 PS = 735.49875 W --------------------------

here is something else for you, in 1995 there was a series II also, it had the series I front, but had the series II engine, dual airbags, colour coded rear skyline badge, updated interior, different seat trim to 93-94, not the same as 96, series II instrument panel, series II floor mats.

I am yet to find a Japanese import with stock ECU run better on Optimax than BP Ultimate, one thing I have noticed with Optimax is, it gives the greatest amount of K's per litre. (R32 GTSt, R33 GTS25t, R33 GTR, Forester S/tb, Legacy GTB, GC8 WRX, Pulsar GTIR all seem to like BP Ultimate, and Mobil Synergy 8000 best.)

BP Ultimate is the only fuel I can use, and feel pleased with myself. I had some very, very, very bad problems with Optimax, Mobil Synergy 8000 is pretty decent, but I think the BP is a little better.

This is an old thread, but the R33 GTS25t is 250ps (246.6 SEA hp) which is 183.88kw, the 1995+ (series II engine, 1996 is facelift model) is also rated at this same 250ps, but seems to have more power, the Series II that was used for my friends testing, stock standard made 138kw at the rear wheels. This is the information from an emissions test performed during the process of getting a compliancing licence under the new (old) SEVS scheme. The reason the R33 GTS25t only makes 138kw at the wheels is because of the differences in fuel (not only octane rating, but density), also the altitude is different in Japan making the fuel maps behave strangely in Australia. Another aspect to take into consideration is, for the emissions, the ignition timing is taken back from 20degree's before top dead center, and set to 15 degree's, this minimizes the chance of detonation on 91-95 RON fuel, 98 RON shouldn't have any problems with the standard timing. Here is the information for the January 1996 built R33 Skyline GTS25t Type M Specifications I, submitted by Nissan Motor Company Japan. Standard-vehicle itself price(Tokyo area) 281.8 ten thousand Yen Drive system FR Car name type E-ECR33 Transmission 5MT Total length x full x total height 4640 x 1720 x 1340 mm Interior long x interior width x interior high 1820 x 1415 x 1090 mm Wheel base 2720 mm Roadspace 145 mm Vehicle weight 1370 kg Riding in a car fixed capacity 5 names The number of doors 2 Standard color Black/white/dark blue/ash/silver/red Type Water cooling serial 6 cylinder DOHC24 valves LEV It is not Type RB25DET Turbo Turbo Total cubic displacement 2498 cc Use fuel Unleaded premium gasoline Fuel tank capacity 65 L The highest output 250 ps (183.88 kw)/6400 rpm Largest torque 30 kg m (294.20 N m)/4800 rpm Power weight ratio 5.48 Kg/ps Fuel consumption rate(10/15 mode travelling) 10.2 Km/L Minimum turning radius 5.2 M Tire 205/55R16 89V - Brake system (before) Ventilated disk Brake system (after) Ventilated disk Suspension (before) Independent suspension multi-link system Suspension (after) Independent suspension multi-link system --- Power for R32 GTS-t The highest output 215 ps (158.13 kw)/6400 rpm Largest torque 27 kg m (264.78 N m)/3200 rpm Power weight ratio 5.86 Kg/ps --- The NISSAN skyline 1998 May model 2.5 25GT turbo (R34 GT-T) The highest output 280 ps (205.94 kw)/6400 rpm Largest torque 35 kg m (343.23 N m)/3200 rpm Power weight ratio 5.04 Kg/ps --- Hope that helps.

Yeah I would the rear badge, how much ? [email protected]

Firstly, I got a letter from the EPA to bring my car in for a full test (someone dobed me in, cant wait to show them my stock standard car). Secondly some funny little people thought it would be cool to go to the back of my R33, turn the boot NISSAN badge, and rip it off, snapping it so that they could have a COOL NISSAN badge for their collection/car, then they thought it would be even cooler to take the pox looking silver S off the front grill, I love Australia, I love funny little people.

I have a late 1995 model skyline, with Series 2 Engine. I have a problem when it gets hot, it basically stalls when I press the accelerator quickly, then release. It also starts to run rich after it has been running for a while, I have changed the ECU, changed the AFM, changed the O2 Sensor, Spark plugs, changed the oil, oil filter, fuel filter... what is involved in keeping these cars running ?.. what decides the fuel mixture, what could be causing this problem ? does anyone know a full list of sensors, and components? if anyone has any idea, just let me know.. I am going to try a few other AFM's, and O2 sensors, to make sure there are a whole pile of faulty ones.. regards shane

it sold for $18,000