Brackez

5 stud for turbos, 4 stud for N/As.

I built a tough 192 for my LX Torana a couple of years ago, my first serious attempt at a mechanical sort of project. Broken up by interstate trips, uni etc, it took about 2 years by the time I finished everything and went to drop it in. The big day arrived, I had the car and engine in Dad's shed, and after much stuffing around with the engine crane the spline finally lined up and dropped in. Bursting with anticipation I bolted everything together, turned the engine over on the starter to get oil pressure up, and started it. Joy! It ran! The rough idle in the tin shed was music to my hoonish young ears! The thin, steady trickle of running in oil onto the shed floor from the back of the engine was less inspiring however. Much prodding, poking and chin scratching led my father to the inevitable conclusion that we were going to have to pull the f*ckin thing back out again. Which we did. All gaskets were clean, all bolts tight. Everything looked great, till I suddenly realised I was reading the numbers on the back of the lovely lumpy cam. I thought the guys making the welsh plug kits were just being generous & that's why I had a spare.....

Yes, anything else eye-catching? Will be keeping an eye out, hope you get her back in one piece.

What about a simple non-return valve in the blower output shaft? As long as there was a vent somewhere in the blower for excess pressure once the turbos took over (or a clutch system as already mentioned) it should work. Not sure, it may still be a fake, but I don't see why it has to be.

Sounds about right, mine's pretty sluggish off the mark unless it has some revs up before I drop the clutch. If that pod fillter isn't partitioned and it was a warm day, it would probably make things worse. A cold air induction set up should help, or maybe go back to the stock airbox with a decent panel filter. Either will stop your engine inhaling warm under-bonnet air.

Perhaps a bit of copy & paste? Would love to see this guy get hacked on. He gives car enthusiasts everywhere a bad name.

Ah, re-read your first post, gotcha . Bloody clever things LSDs, seen all the pics attempting to explain how they work, think I'd actually have to pull one to bits and stuff about with it to fully understand them tho.

'But when you put the foot down on a corner in an open center car, its the inside wheel that starts spinning..' I know the thread question has been answered, but have to throw my 2c in: the above is a result of weight transfer. Side G-loading through a corner inevitably places more weight on the outside wheel than the inside. Hence, the friction forces between the road and tyre are higher for the outside wheel. This means that with an excess of power to both wheels, the easier wheel to spin is the inside one. This is the point of a LSD really, to reduce the tendency of the inside/lighter wheel to spin when it breaks traction by limiting the transfer of power from one wheel to another.

Yes! For Pete's sake end this gibberish...

'Keep the same rules in place for 10 years.. saves a lot of ****ing around.' True, but that only works if the rules make sense and actually work. Otherwise they'll be either reviled or ignored, in which case you might as well not have them at all. Standardisation of speed limits/penalties between states wouldn't hurt either.

I'm curious about what people think of the proposed increase in parking costs from some Sydney local councils for owners of large 4WDs/high fuel consumption vehicles. I know this may not appear to be an issue that will affect most performance import drivers, but with fuel consumtion being discussed as a means of scaling the rate increases I would like to hear from any one who knows how they will determine a car's fuel consumption. If it's by registered vehicle type/engine capacity etc, no problems but are they likey to consider modifications or test individual cars? Could be an issue down the track if they do.

Igor :werd:

Not actually sure what the differences would be, I suppose it would depend on how far away the garage was, speeds travelled at to get there etc. Best way to set them cold would be to get a tyre pressure gauge (not too expensive for the simple pen type ones), then let them down progressively at home till you get the cold pressure you're after .

What a cynical bunch you are! At least these are steps in the right direction rather than the usual tax-payer funded ad campaigns plastered in papers, tv etc to justify their revenue raising. If they are going to persist with the principle of no tolerance, speeding by 5km/h increases braking distances heaps etc, then they must attempt to show that the focus is on improving safety rather than treasury balances. Increasing points and dropping fines seems a fair way to do it. I'll agree that the point penalties for you guys in NSW were too high to begin with though, no points in WA for up to 9km/h over.

'Who's thread?' 'Thread's dead baby, thread's dead'.

Looks are such a subjective thing, yet they hold considerable sway over the decisions we make on a regular basis. What does it do actually do for us owning a car that 'looks' nice? Probably not much. My 2c- not a bad looking car, a bit too much like a 350Z (also ok looks wise, but why make 2 cars so similar in design, looks & performance?). Also as someone else said, a bit too similar to the competition (TTs, Mercs etc)- lacks the distinguishability (if that's a word) of its predecessors. I mourn the death of the stove tops, and even more the in line 6. Surely balance shafts are a sign that you are going about things the wrong way...

"...all SS drivers a bad name" Not all. I've got a mate who just sold his VT s2 SS (Gen3 6spd, CAI & exhaust). Not a bad car all told, but for about $25k it was only slightly quicker than my stock R32 ($18k from a dealer, yes expensive but fresh import like new condition full 100 000k service just done etc) in a straight line. We both drove each others' cars and there was no doubt for either of us that mine was in a different league around corners and under brakes. In the end, he was sick of the poor city driving fuel economy and lousy build quality by comparison. Everything works on mine like the day it came out of the factory: 3 of his electric windows had failed in the time he owned it and the car already had a small but noticeable oil leak. Go figure. Sorry Jay, guess you were right. Now he's sold the car, he's not an SS driver anymore is he ?

"(my car is good for 9s on slicks) and there are no 10 second GTRs in WA" and also, there are quicker holden 5ltrs out there.... in a straight line... i definatly wouldnt go a GTR, ide go a V8" This is fun isn't it? I wasn't talking about on slicks. That's obvious isn't it? Whack big fat slicks on the back and get enough grunt and you will, as you say, go fast in a straight line. Put the street tyres back on and suddenly all that power doesn't compensate for the loss of traction. Of course you will win burnout comps. Congrats, kudos, well done bogan, but who really gives a toss? Just about anything can manage a burnout, I've seen postie bikes do it for crying out loud. What does it accomplish/prove exactly? No 10 sec GTRs in WA- so? Knowing they're out there somewhere must be niggling at you. Not that many GTRs in WA full stop to be fair: thousands of Commodores/HSVs slower than any GTR though. "and an R34 GTR is just as big in size as a clubsport... and theres only 200kg weight difference...." ONLY 200kg? That's quite a bit: about 15% in fact. And where do you get just as big from? Might not be a huge difference but I'll go out on a limb & say the HSV is longer, wider and taller. An R32 GTR is a tidler by comparison, that's for damn sure. And they all have aircon numbnuts. My 1992 GTST has climate control aircon: SFW?. I don't need GPS, I know where I'm bloody well going, and I don't think leather is a measure of performance. As for the interior design, well, you like yours, I like mine. If that's the only thing you can really pick wrong with a PERFORMANCE car, maybe it's a sign you are trying to pick faults to justify your own car.

"Its not hard to make any car quick around corners.... spend the $$$ and any car can go fast." Sunk under the weight of your own bs. If this is the case, why start with a car that handles like crap in stock form due to being designed primarily as a large passenger/family vehicle? I'd rather (assuming my objective was to go fast and corner well) start with something smaller that has an intelligent AWD system (like, oh, I don't know ATTESSA perhaps) and has been designed as a sports car from the beginning. I don't hate Holdens. My first car was an LX Torana and I loved it. I am even willing to agree that a new HSV Clubsport is a very quick car. However, to claim that it is an intrinsically superior performance car to a GTR is flat out ludicrous. When HSV get around to doing something with the new Torana, I'll be impressed. Oh and as for you claiming never to have lost to any Skyline down the 1/4, you must know that there are plenty of 10sec street legal GTRs out there. Easy to keep winning if you pick your competition carefully enough: Anthony Mundine is living proof of this.

I too love watching 540ci Keith Black (Chrysler block base by the way, not GM/Holden) powered top fuellers/funny cars run sub 5s passes, and the minute I get the urge to spend huge money and hit 500kph, that's what I'll use. In the mean time, I want to drive around for a reasonable amount of money in a car that performs well in a straight line, corners sublimely and does it without any serious noise, fuss or massive fuel consumption. I'm married (to an 'older lady' BTW), and I didn't buy the car to pull chicks. Any one who does is a dickhead. On that note though, my other half drives the car regularly and loves it. It doesn't need a 'Man', however woefully inadequate he may otherwise be, to drive it. It was made to be easy and comfortable to drive for anyone.

Bugger! Other posts stole my thunder lol. Shouldn't have tried to write a novel in one post I suppose, but seriously what a clown :headshot:

Your comparison is interesting, but you have missed one major point. You listed new prices for all cars, but an R33 can't be bought new. The reason for this is that YOU ARE COMPARING A BRAND NEW SPECIALIST-MADE (HSV not Holden) CAR TO AN 8-12 YEAR OLD ONE MADE BY A MAINSTREAM MANUFACTURER. You pillock. I am sure someone on this forum could provide you with some interesting performance figures for SPECIALIST Jap tuning house Skyline derivatives (Mines, Nismo etc) which would make your BRAND NEW HSV look rather second rate. No need though: buy a stock R33 GTR for $50k, spend the remaining $17k on engine-only mods and then compare 1/4 times. When you are finished doing that, put the GTR with its relatively mild engine mods and STOCK suspension on a race track (with corners, you know corners? Where you have to change direction in that 1700kg behemoth?) with that VU you've wasted your money on and see what happens. Remembering all the time that you are losing to a car about 10 years older, which is far more driveable day to day and probably uses less fuel AND doesn't make as much noise. Fool.

Means before driving the car, ie. with cold air in the tyres. As you drive around, even normally your tyres heat up. Boyle's law dictates that when this happens, the pressure of the air in your tyres goes up too. Hence you will get different results if you check your pressures b4 & after driving (higher reading when hot).

:werd: . This is the part of the proposal that caught my fancy: focusing on other aspects of driving than speed. If there were less hesitant, stupid, right lane hogging bottom-feeders on the road the flow of traffic might improve to the point where people wouldn't feel the frustration that leads to speeding in the first place... . Ahhh... that feels better .

Just got back on here: RB30-POWER, wot ali said goes 4 me x 2. In addition, look at price differences. I'd stack $50k of R33 GTR against $50k of anything HSV offer, if they even have anything for that price. Even $95-$100k of HSV would be pushing it's luck to match the GTR, and even then only in a straight line. Remember corners?