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It can still make that sound with that crossover pipe because it doesnt have a BOV(im pretty sure) that tiny cooler thing isnt really going to effect the compressor surge. If its taken you years to work out what that noise is well you havnt been round very long cause theres normally a thread about it weekly

Correct and it normally only works when you have a less restrictive intake such as a pod filter.

That noise you are reffering to is called compressor surge. It personal choice whether you like it or not but the reason why it makes that noise becasue as you take your foot off the throtle their is no BOV for the air coming from the turbo to ecscape so it goes back out through the turbo making that tsh tsh tsh tsh noise.

Today I saw a black STI with Black rims and it looked nice as. more then half decent to. Even though it was a STI i would still go for it

I think most people would prefer a better all round performance car like a Skyline or Supra. On a track the Supra or Skyline would beat a Vl no questions asked but in a straight line the VL with a few mods ammounting up to the same ammont of a stock Skyline would beat the Supra or Skyline. It depends on what you want the car for. 1 last question, in 5-10 years time will a street driven GTR be capable of times under 10 seconds. Take the Panic VL for instance runs 8.69 on slicks though. Thanks

$650 thats a bargain, are you going to convert it to turbo? If not do you have any other mods in mind

VL turbos r stupidly quick for how old they are. My mate at school is like ohh a supra will beat the shit out of that peice of holden crap. Little does he realise the price of his supra could buy me a vl turbo calais and a shit load of mods that could see me absolutely killing his stock supra. A SOHC engine that is 15 plus years old capable of producing 1/4 mile times under 12, 11, 10 and beyond has got to be something worth while. Dont listen to anyone that tells you that they are wankers cause if they had a car like that theyd be making fluttering noises all the time. Thats my 2 cents worth.

Depends if he wants flutter or not. Pod filter will be good fluttering. And im not trying to turn this inot an arguement about fluttering. It happens every week here

Thanks I'm not really looking for an apprenticesip just some casual work round cars cause im doing my VCE at the moment. Once again cheers for the info

And i think that this just answered my question about the fluttering noise

Far out you would seriuosly hate to get abusive over my minor mistakes and also i dont own a car im 16! The fluttering noise that i think i am talking about is the cooler noise, if it even makes a noise. And for the thirs time i apologise for my lack of car knowledge

Getting money back from my first car is not a concern that I have. All im after is a good first car that is cheap, R31 skyline, and one that I can get sideways in. 2 more questions how much would and RB30 turbo conversion cost and What motor does the Silhouette come with?

the flutter sound in talking about is the one of an external wastegate not a turbo that has an internal wastegate. ANd the blow off valve doesnt make a flutter noise it makes a whoosh sound.

Cmon guys give me a break i only signed up yesterday. Once again sorry for my ignorance

by the time i turn 18 i will have hopefully saved up about 5 grand or maybe a little more and im considering buying an R31 and turn it into my drift machine. I like the look of the Silhoutte (correct spelling?). I have a few questions that maybe someone might be able to help me with. 1. how much will the car set me back I was think somewhere between $1500 and $2500. 2. Does the Silhoutte come with and LSD and 3. Is it worth looking at an RB20DET conversion or a turbo conversion of something simila, preferable a halfcut with the gearbox and ECU and so on. Do you guys think that it would be worth while getting the car when i save up enoguh money, before i turn 18, and then doing it up from there. 1 last thing if there are any mechanics that you know of in the Melb S/E suburbs like FTG and the likes that might take on a 16 yr old to just do some work round cars and learn a bit more it would be appreciated if you lead me in the right direction. Cheers

Yes i realised that internal ones dont cause thats what my dad has got on his XR6T and Mr Fanny no google search is going to tell you that the wastegate flutters as most of the sites just bring up the basics of turbocharging and related peices of information about wat does the wastegate do. I forgot to mention I love the fluttering sound.

Can some one please spear us the trouble and just say how it works mr fanny i dont really want to google search becasue I would like it if you told me ur side of the story and i did apologise for being an inexperienced car enthusiast

Dont mean to be a complete idiot, I just wanted to clear this up, but isnt the wastegate the thing that makes the fluttering noise and I am quite sure that the BOV makes that woosh noise?