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I agree that had he owned just about any other car it probably wouldn't have been mentioned. Skylines have a reputation for being the car of choice for many reckless young hoons. Therefore the writer obviously though it worthwhile to include the type of car in his article. Which only adds to their bad reputation. Strangley enough though, I noticed this photo in the Daily Telegraph the other day. Found it interesting that just about all the cars in the photo are Commodores, and the one high-performance Japanese car in the photo was incorrectly said to be a Commodore.

Six retired Irishmen were playing poker in O'Leary's apartment when Paddy Murphy loses $500 on a single hand, clutches his chest and drops dead at the table. Showing respect for their fallen brother, the other five continue playing standing up. Michael O'Conner looks around and asks, "Oh, me boys, someone got's to tell Paddy's wife. Who will it be?" They draw straws. Liam Gallagher picks the short one. They tell him to be discreet be gentle, don't make a bad situation any worse. "Discreet??? I'm the most discreet Irishmen you'll ever meet. Discretion is my middle name. Leave it to me" Gallagher goes over to Murphy's house and knocks on the door Mrs. Murphy answers and asks what he wants. Gallagher declares: "Your husband just lost $500 and is afraid to come home" "Tell him to drop dead!" ! says Murphy's wife. "I'll go tell him." says Gallagher.

Subject: life as we know it On the first day, God created the dog and said: "Sit all day by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes In or walks past. For this, I will give you a life span of twenty years." The dog said: "That's a long time to be barking. How about only ten years and I'll give you back the other ten?" So God agreed. On the second day, God created the monkey and said: "Entertain people, do tricks, and make them laugh. For this, I'll give you a twenty-year life span." The monkey said: "Monkey tricks for t! wenty years? That's a pretty long time to perform. How about I give you back ten like the Dog did?" And God agreed. On the third day, God created the cow and said: "You must go into the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer's family. For this, I will give you a life span of sixty years." The cow said: "That's kind of a tough life you want me to live for sixty years. How about twenty and I'll give back the other forty?" And God agreed again. On the fo! urth day, God created man and said: "Eat, sleep, play, marry and enjoy your life. For this, I'll give you twenty years." But man said: "Only twenty years? Could you possibly give me my twenty, the forty the cow gave back, the ten the monkey gave back, and the ten the dog Gave back; that makes eighty, okay?" "Okay," said God, "You asked for it." So that is why the first twenty years we eat, sleep, play and enjoy ourselves. For the next forty years we slave in the sun to support our family. For the next ten years we do monkey tricks to entertain >the grandchildren. And for the last ten years we sit on the front porch and bark at everyone. Life has now been explained to you.

A primary teacher starts a new job at a school in Bankstown and, trying to make a good impression on her first day, explains to her class that she is a Bulldogs fan. She asks her students to raise their hands if they are Bulldogs fans. Everyone in the class raises their hand except one little girl. The teacher looks at the girl with surprise and says: "Mary, why didn't you raise your hand?" "Because I'm not a Bulldogs fan," she replied. The teacher, still shocked, asked: "Well, if you're not a Bulldogs fan, then who are you a fan of?" "I'm a Sea Eagles fan, and proud of it," Mary replied. The teacher could not believe her ears. "Mary, why are you a Sea Eagles fan?" Mary then replied "Because my mum and dad are from Dee Why, and so my mum is a Sea Eagles fan and my dad is a Sea Eagles fan, so I'm a Sea Eagles fan too!" "Well," said the teacher, in an obviously annoyed tone, "that's no reason for you to be a Sea Eagles fan. You don't have to be just like your parents all of the time. What if your mum was a prostitute, your dad was a drug addict, and your brother was a pack rapist, what would you be then?" "Then," Mary said, "I'd be a Bulldogs fan."

One of the trapped miners has just walked out!!

Heres a few of my pics taken from a Nokia 6230i. Please excuse my complete lack of photography skills. Start of NSW Waratahs vs. ACT Brumbies at Aussie Stadium a couple of weeks ago: A Hummer that was getting detailed next door to my work. Believe it or not they are 28" rims.

From Japanese TV - Never wear a seal hat to the zoo (animated gif)

I believe that the car underneath looks like the VE in wheels magazines spy shots. And perhaps its LHD is because they are testing a Middle East variant. However that doesn't explain the Swedish number plates. Even if it is a Volvo, it is being driven on Australian roads, so shouldn't it have Australian (NSW or SA) plates? I understand it is obviously not in production yet so it probably can't be registered, but surely they would still have some sort of Australian number plates on it. Or is it the norm for foreign vehicles tested in Australia to bear the plates of their country of origin?

It looks a lot like the VE, but I agree it must be a Volvo, due to the Swedish number plates and LHD. Its not a new magna. The new magna is already out, its called the 380.

He says he should have got an SS commodore. But when the gen3's where first released there were a few owners who put similar stickers on their cars, as they had similar problems. I think the first batch of gen3s consumed a bit of oil when thrashed, and obviously if the oil wasn't topped up the engines seized. That was when the gen3 was first brought in, and the xr6 turbos are still new so problems with a few are to be expected I suppose.

Kiwi walks into his bedroom with a sheep under his arm and says: "Darling, this is the pig I have sex with when you have a headache." His girlfriend is lying in bed and replies: "I think you'll find that's a sheep, you idiot." The man says: " I think you'll find I wasn't talking to you."

Levees - not exactly hilarious, but true. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0112-15.htm

I don't think you'll get a good one considering you have a budget of only 9-10 grand. IMO its probably not worth buying such a cheap shit one, it'll only cost you more in the long run.

Buy wheels, motor and hpi. They are the best mags and I should subscribe. Also buy the occasional autosalon or fast fours if they look interesting. Can't stand Hot4s for some reason.

A VH45 has 2000cc more than the 1JZ GTE (2.5L TT). I believe you are thinking of the 1UZ FE(4L quad cam v8). EDIT: To answer the original question, either way I can't really see the point. As Big Rizza suggested you should spend the money on the VH45.

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You have WAAAAYYY too much time on your hands.... But it is pretty much spot on.

You'd be stupid to buy parts for an rb30 from Holden. They are exactly the same parts stocked by Nissan, only more expensive. lol @ Stretched and warped Camira. Couldn't have said it better myself. Although only specifically refering to the series 3 r31, I'm not so much a fan of the earlier Pintara look-a-likes. Read a few articles that you can find that compared vls and r31s when they were first released. r31 won easily for all the reasons already stated. Also I believe r31s are a bit quicker due to the better diff ratios. 3.7 for manual and 3.9 for auto, whereas the vl has the one 3.45 ratio.

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I agree, he is at fault, he should give you a refund. Also m&m is right, even if he wasn't in the wrong you could still get a refund. Just keep complaining until you get a refund. Thats what I do. Also at my old job I wasn't supposed to give refunds but I did anyway, or told them to come back when the manager was in. I cbf arguing with a pissed off customer, especially when I have plenty of other work to do. Usually when they came back and argued with the manager for a while she gave them a refund anyway. After all, the customer is always right.

He'll probably get off. Big money lawyers can do magical things. John Singleton got caught doing 160 on the freeway. He got let off in court with his argument that his Bentley was built to do those speeds safely. Try using that excuse next time you get done in your skyline, the judge will probably laugh at you.

Yeah I can understand that. But really, since when has NFS been about realism? Its no Gran Turismo. I'm glad the dyno tuning has gone, it was pointless. But I agree that it does get a bit repetitive once you start moving up the blacklist. Definately has to be played in very small doses. Also miss the drift, I reckon it kinda broke up the monotony.

Ok, but obviously thats what I said in the first place. I said they don't have a stance, until they have finished testing. We're just splitting hairs now. Lets go back to the original purpose of the thread. I have not had a chance to use Optimax Extreme, as no Shell servos on the coast have it in stock. But next time I'm in Sydney I will probably fill up. In the meantime I'd like to hear the opinions of more people who have used it and whether they think it is worth the extra couple of cents or not.

^^^ So you're saying Nissan has a stance, but they don't know what it is? Doesn't this mean they have no stance at this stage? Please forgive my limited intelligence but you're going to have to explain the big difference. But as I said I don't want to sit here arguing all day, I've got better things to do. We should try and let this thread go back to its original purpose, of allowing people who have used the fuel to give their own experience of it, rather than just arguing trivial points.