Tonba

No worries. Thought I would ask the question! :-)

Again. Thanks for the good words. I appricated positive feedback.. even though it isnt a Skyline or even a nissan! Where have you seen it around?

Off-loading my Enkei PF01 18x9.5" +35 with 265/35 Advan AD08 soon!

Is it possible that the turbo tapped out early (as in max boost) due to exhaust restrictions??? Actually, I was more reffering to the tests that English Racing have done. They much prefer the HTA3586R. Just more drivable on street, and power isn't too far off the HTA3794R... unless they really push huge boost. On a bigger motor, designed for more rev's the HTA3794R should just make MUCH more power. The 4G63 just isnt made to rev like the RB26. It has a long stroke, and it is designed for rally use... (ie low down torque and response... NOT high power @ high revs).

Thanks for the nice words. I look forward to keeping everyone updated with more pictures! The blank core was approx $1,600.. I am bro. 6-8 weeks and it should be back on the road with a run-in tune.

Hey guys, Just a quick update. Car is heading over to Bodyform next week (tuesday I think) to get the paint looked at, as it is currently looking VERY neglected due to all the trackwork, and spending alot of time outside (never had a garage for it!).... So we are tossing up a few different colours at the moment. -Lamborghini 'Bianco Monocerus' White with Ceramic White (or simlar) AME TM02 Tracers. -Ferrari 'Bianco Avus' White with Ceramic White (or simlar) AME TM02 Tracers. -Lexus 'White Nova' White with Ceramic White (or simlar) AME TM02 Tracers. -Lamborghini 'Grigio Lynx' Gunmetal with Dark Gunmetal AME TM02 Tracers. The look we are trying to go with, is a very clean, understated look that sets itself apart from every other evo you see on the road, which is why we are looking at colours from supercar manufacturers, simply because the colours they produce always standout and look different... Ill post some pictures soon of 'Before' it goes...

My mates Evo has run a few twinscroll HTA Turbos. HTA3582R with 1.06 A/R Rear Housing - Made 450kW HTA3586R with 1.06 A/R Rear Housing - Made 500kW Difference is about 2-300RPM in spool. The HTA3586R is the BEST all round forced performance turbo you can buy unless your running really big boost like 40+psi. But under 40psi, the HTA3586R will be more responsive and make similar power as the HTA3794R's. I ALMOST went to a HTA3586R. But just didn't due to $$ that I was spending elsewhere on the car..

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/305217-hta-35r-new-power-gains-quest-150-mph-trap-speeds-2.html Post #24 has a direct comparison of GT3582R vs HTA3582R and this was all the way back in 2007! There is PLENTLY more results I just need to un-earth them when I get the chance.

And why is that? Mat's results prove that the GT turbos are just a dated design these days. With all these billet style turbos coming from the likes of FP and Precision Turbo, the results just speak for themselves. I have also played around with Trust turbos - 20G & T67 and also my current turbo, which is a HTA model. And let me tell you, it makes more power, and is more responsive then my old T67 ever was... I personally wouldnt go for either of those turbos. HTA turbos are just fantastic. Based on results in the USA on Evo's. I understand its a different platform, but you need to understand that the Evo guys have been playing around with billet turbos + twin scroll applications for a LONG time now. Twin scroll simply chokes the top-end unfortunatly. I'll see if I can find some links with some decent information. I agree. The GTX turbos are good.

Its actually a 67mm turbine wheel. Designed in-house by forced performance. Now I do realise that in a traditional sence, a larger turbine wheel means more power, but you need to also understand the turbine housing restrictions. It is a 10.5cm twin scroll rear housing with internal wastegate. Anyone who knows twin-scroll applications will understand how restrictive it is... example a T3 0.82 A/R single scroll housing flows similar to a T4 1.15 Twin Scroll Housing. THAT is how restrictive the divider makes it. The FP reds have a 10.5cm twin scroll housing. If you convert that to A/R, it works out to be similar to a 0.77 A/R rear housing. Now you cant tell me that combined with a internal wastegate, it is going to flow well... The fact is that it is so restrictive on the turbine side, but can still punch out 350-400kW on a four wheel drive car.. is nothing short of amazing. Forced performance REALLY know how to build turbochargers, and thier new (okay, they are not that new.. about 4 years old) HTA line of compressor wheels are truely amazing. I stand by my original statement, and say the GT line of turbos are dinosaurs. Just like the Mitsubishi turbochargers (trust / greddy) were made redundant 4-5 years ago. The GTX are good, but I just think that the HTA wheels from forced performance are superior.

Hey guys, Here are a few cars running forced performance HTA turbos (all evos... I know... But still) -Nik Kalis' Evo 9 which won WTAC Clubsprint 2010 using a HTA73 (FP Green), and won 2011 Open Class using a HTA82 (FP Black) -Jason Naidoo Evo 8 which has made 360kW using a HTA76 (FR Red) and runs in the 1.36 sec range at eastern creek on semi-slicks -Dan Farquhar Evo 8 which was runner up in WTAC Clubsprint Class 2012 using a HTA76R (FP Red) and ran a 1.40 at eastern creek on street tyres -Noah Tupai Evo 9 which has run 500kW @ all fours using a HTA86 (HTA3586R with 1.15 T4 Rear Housing) -VSport Evo 10 ran a HTA82 (FP Black) at WTAC 2012 and ran a 1.34 in Open Class -Powertune's "Snowflake" Evo 9 has run 400kW @ all fours using a HTA76 (FP Red) and also run 10.4sec quarter mile There are many many more mental results like these out there. The fact is, these turbochargers are far better then the GTX turbos from garrett, and light years away from the dinosaur GT series of turbo.. Please note, that the FP Green/Red/Black series of turbo is a complete bolt-on solution for Evo. They are a modified stock frame turbo, and for them to punch-out mental power (400kW+), be responsive and stealthy (can be bolted to stock manifold, etc) is a true testiment to Forced performance and thier HTA line of turbos.

New Stealth Bomber Exhaust fitted Feb 2013! New OEM Head + Mivec BITS... Ready for CNC treatment!

More pictures from the Second Build

Nice of you guys to FINALLY join the HTA bandwagon!

Can you get me a 235/45/17 tyre? Needs to be roadworthy... Need a SUPER cheap one.. Going to put the car on stockies so I can trial fit the Enkei's on your car.

^ Problem is that evo guards are just not as accomodating as GTR guards... Its a lot of work to fit the 9.5's +22!

Pictures of Second Build!

Pictures of First build...

Hi Everyone, After much nagging from Mat, I decided to start my own build thread for my Evo - I hope you guys/gals can appricate a build that isn't a Nissan! Behind the scenes story.. I have owned this car for about 5-6 years now, and it is now going through its third build (second engine build). FIRST BUILD The first build of the car, was a street setup that could play at the track, and drag strip as well. Back then the car had stock block, Kelford 272* 11mm lift cams, a bolt on 20G turbocharger, and all the bolt-ons. Stock body, coilovers and some R34 GTR wheels. It pulled about 230-240kW at all fours, and on my first outing at the drags it pulled a 13.2sec quarter with a 2.0sec 60' time. At wakefield it layed down a 1.08sec lap. SECOND BUILD For the second stage of the build, I decded to go for a much more wild track style build, but still play on street or drag strip. The car was rebuilt using a 2.3L stroker kit, port and polished head, modified manifolds, custom 272* 10.8mm lift JUN cams (lumpy as FK), 1450cc inj, big twin 255l/hr walbro fuelsystem, custom forced performance turbocharger setup, floor pan stitchwelded, voltex carbon wing, stripped interior, halfcage, evo 9 passenger seat, cobra fixed back bucket seat. The car belted out a very lazy 300-320kW (at 24psi) at all fours. It ran a 12.4sec 1/4 mile (second time ever) with a 1.8sec 60' time and belted out a 1.48sec at easter creek on street rubber. Ever since the build the car was plauged with problems, and I never got to enjoy it. CURRENT / THIRD BUILD So here we are.. after taking my car to another shop to get the tune looked at, it was looked into further, and many parts of the engine build was found to be fautly/defective. So the decision was made to start from scratch. A blank canvas if you will. I admit, with the second build I moved away from the car I originally setout to build, which was a street brawler, that can hold its own at the track + strip, but can be used day to day. What I had turned the car into was a full-track car. So for this build, I have decided to tame things down, and just get the car running how I always wanted it. I am going for an understated / stealth look, and will eventually get the car engineered. I have spent alot of time researching, and doing calcs on what would create the powerband I wanted, be reliable, and not to mention fun. ENGINE Alot of things will be changing in the engine department. The only real things from the original engine build that are staying, is the engine block, intake manifold + throttle, intercooler and turbo. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING else is getting changed. My original ported evo 8 head was soldoff a few months ago, I originally purchased a second hand O-ringed evo 9 head. But eventually we decided that we should be starting from be begining. No second hand parts that I do not know thier history. The head was crack-tested and pressure-tested, after it passed with flying colours, it was put up for sale and I took the big step of ordering a brand new CNC ported Evo 9 MIVEC head from the USA. This head should not only see gains in flow, but the fact it has a variable intake cam, means that I can get more drivability out of the car, and potential for more lowdown power/better powerband as well as better idle + fuel ecconomy. To go with the new head, a set of upgraded lifters, beehive springs + Ti retainers (rated to 10,500RPM!!!), 1mm oversize valves, new camshafts (274* cams & 12.1mm of lift), and basically every other bit to do a complete MIVEC head conversion on a Evo 8 block. When we pulled the block apart, after assessing the bottomend it was decided that new pistons would be needed. I personally didnt like the crank we used in the second build (100mm stroke cast 4G64 crank), so we deicded to replace the whole rotating assembly with; Billet 94mm Stroke Crank, Forged I beam rods and custom pistons. (to change the static compression ratio!) Since ordering the gear, the Crank + rods have arrived, with the pistons due in a few weeks and the head should arrive approx end of june, ready for the whole shooting match to be put together. On the intake side of things, pritty much everything is staying, HKS Type-R Intercooler Kit, Ported and flowbenched stock intake manifold, inlarged stock throttlebody. Exhaust side of things has changed alot. Previously I was running a restrictive 70mm dumppipe, 70mm front pipe, 3" 200cell metal cat and a Trust Ti- R Exhaust, which was 80mm, but necked down at the flange to suit stock cat (approx 68mm). This all was unacceptable, as it was just too loud and quite restrictive for my turbo (which is highly sensitive to backpressure), so I am replacing it with a 3" dump (with septerated wastegate dump) into a 3.5" front pipe, a 100cell cat with a 3.5" inlet and 3" outlet into a true 3" catback fitted with two hotdogs and a oval rear muffler for noise suppression. Exhaust manifold was a Full-Race manifold with 1.25" primaries, this is being replaced with a TOXIC-FAB manifold with 1.5" primarys. My turbo is a custom turbo from Forced Performance. It has a HTA82 Compressor Wheel and a 67mm Turbine wheel (1mm smaller then a GT35 turbine). The Turbine housing is a 10.5cm2 twin scroll housing with internal gate. I have decided to keep it from my last build, as it was never pushed hard (only ran 24psi), and it will lower costs. The turbine has already been set away to freshen up its ceramic coating, and the compressor housing has been coated in black for a steath look. I have since sold the FIC 1450cc injectors and will be replacing them with a set of 2000cc injectors, and the twin walbro 255's are going to be replaced with twin walbro e85 suitable 400lphs! The return line is going to be replaced with a -6 return. EXTERIOR Well, this is a big sticking point for me. I hate the way the car looks these days. It looks soooo rundown, and a cop magnet. So the front tow-hook is going, along with my voltex wing. I have purchased a second hand standard wing, a second hand front bar and I will be purchasing an Evo 9 rear bar. The car will be cleaned up and resprayed to look factory. Currently the car is white, but the intent is to respray it a gunmetal colour. At the moment Im leaning towards the House of Colour Hue: Galaxy Grey. Currently the car sits on rims I purchased for the second build. They were Enkei PF01 in 18*9.5" +35, sprayed in lexus gunmetal and shod in Advan AD08 265/35R18 rubber. But I have recently put a deposit down on a set of AME TM02 Tracers in Gunmetal. I am still deciding if I should run a 18x9.5" +22 with 275/35R18 tyres and pulled rear guards, or a set of 18x10.5" +22 with 295/30R18 tyres with some bolt on flares...... Not sure. INTERIOR Well, what can I say. Its pure race at the moment. So my cobra race seat and evo 9 passenger seat are up for sale. I will be replacing them with a set of stock Evo8MR recaro seats in black suade. The half cage will be staying but I will be putting carpet back in, and putting some type of stereo back in.... So thats my story for now... I will add to it later + add pictures. Thanks for reading.

Brutal...

^ Agree'd. I have been using a Custom FP turbo with a HTA82 Compressor wheel for 3 years now, and it is amazing compaired to other turbos.

^ Im shy! lolz

<3 this car.. perfect streeter.

^ Still need to take me for a drive! ;-)

What a nugget. jks - well done mate. Looking forward to some thrashing with you.