slap my ass and call me bitch coz of my crap launches! launching was a learning experience that day, but i think i did my best. comparing a GTi-R to a skyline stock for stock, its clear who the winner will be but most cars aren't stock. its all about the mods. each has its adavantages and disadvantages but at the end of the day, i admire all cars that are faster than me, even GTi-R's (just keep that 180 limiter Poyz!). if i didnt get the GTr my next choice in the list would be a GTi-R or an EVO, no doubt. i'm 4wd biased coz i know i won't be able to handle rwd. heh. but thats me.