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Sounds like his had a hard time with it! Prices have been getting higher and higher lately, alot of the shops around the area who do chassis work are charging a fortune. I'm about 95% of the way through an massive R33 cage currently which I did a quick ring around to get an idea what the going rate is for such a cage ( I know what it's worth but what is being charged is another thing) I was shocked at some of the rough quotes I was told.

Never mind.... Refer to previous phone conversation

Get a pair of kirkey seats Neil I bought another Peterson tank. It's longer than the other ones I have and is second hand from a sprint car. Diameter is the same and it has proper mounting straps. The straps should fit the brand new tanks which you wanted.

What do you think Neil?? Its pretty similar to alot of other cages ive done like Ryan's This one has the full roof X, different head support bars, intrusions and the windscreen supports. The U type intrusions have a few advantages, the X bars obviously have a raised stress area where they are welded. The welded sections meet at fairly acute angles usually 50+ degrees, that leaves plenty of welded surface area, the welded area is just as strong as the original tube but the heat zones around the area can become a problem. If they fail the X bars usually split open and create all sorts of nasty sharp edges etc not to mention the lack of protection. The U bar obviously has no welded areas. It is also double tube diameter the entire length of the intrusion as opposed to the X bar which has a section usually an inch or so long that is only single bar protection. For the U bars to fail they either need to spilt open (they are made from 750Mpa CDS as opposed to 350mpa), tear the welds off the main hoop and front legs (they are also tagged to the sill pannels and pillars where possible so not just relying on the hoop and leg welds in Neil's case) or finally they need to bend the legs and hoop, also needs to bend the hoop X, dash bar and roof supports to do so though... So the U bars are stronger when done properly in double tube and they remove the chance of the X bars intersection failing. The disavantage of the U bars is the additional work it requires. A normal X intrusion is pretty simple, straight tube two knotches, typically the cut tube is a 55-60 degree knotch welded together where it intersects and move on. sometimes fit two vertical gusset tubes if required. The U bars need to be thought out alot more to make sure the bends line up and butt up against the other tube,it looks awful if the bends are different radius' or angles too so some though has to go into that too. I flatten the bend where they meet and MIG weld the two bars around the circumference, then make up two vertical supports from offcuts, finally cut the gusset plates and weld them in and with neil's car linish it all smooth so the whole gusset looks seamless to the intrusion. Its easy to spend 3 hours on an intrusion bar. Worth the time though if the owner is willing to pay for it. I rarely do U bars due to the extra time and cost involved. Not many people really bother either.

Could you PM me a number so can organise to borrow it?? The pins and shit are off to be heat treated tommorrow

Super taxi cages amuse me. We all have to adhere to a half door opening height for side intrusions even if the cage is homologated outside shedule J. Yet have a go at how high they run their intrusions. I know why they do it and it makes perfect structural sence, but were not able to do it. Same as the drop bar in the door opening. We have a few strict rules for door openings. There are for and againsts when using the X intrsuions. They are actually way easier to fabricate than the bent bars beleive it or not.

Well in between Pete's HR31, waiting for machining, parts etc etc and the rain ive been stuffing around with Neil's car too, all be it slower than id like but trying to get the HR31 out of here sooner rather than latter, so I can finish my own GTiR. Its no where near finished as yet, far from it actually but this is where its at. Oh and a massive mention to my Fiance who has put up with me working on Pete's car for two weeks now and Neil's on and off this week, all while im meant to be on holidays doing nothing.....

the coupe is pretty much rolling again! Few little things to sort out like the brake line brackets and the other shock top. Then can cut the floor for the transfer case to fit. Does anyone have a transfer case laying around we can borrow for a week?? I have a box in the car now but no transfer to acuratly guess where to cut the floor.

Hks turbo kit is back up for sale, changing direction with the car so want it gone

We did decide that everything that ever goes into it needs to have an exorcism before being fitted. Is a good car though.

Yes yes you should Neil. 5 orders would be worth his time I'd think. If we put up for interest in the MS section I think it would double easy. Get availability etc first though. Ewww purple and yellow.

I did reply mate but for some stupid reason it got stuck in the outbox thing! give me a call anytime

That's a decent looking little cage you got there mate! Glad you are still happy with it!

I know the feeling well Duncan! I got about 8 on the go! Half are mine the other half belong to everyone else! Sad part is I have nothing to drive, I'm resorting to buying something else to drive!

I'll take interests and pass them onto del to be paid for and ordered etc I have no drama doing that. I'd assume Richard was speaking to the same person. I agree I know forsales are not for the motorsport section ( I rekon a motorsport for sale section would kick arse!) but it would suit in there better. No problem I'll throw the tank on the shelf it's here when your ready, I have just bought 4 more which should have mounting straps.