dunno how ur gonna use them with a std sump or a non modifed sump, caus they generally need an external pickup welded into the sump. Well u could weld a fitting onto the pickup side of a std pump, but not ideal IMO
also paul, for ease, you may want to try to sell ati balancers with them and their crank snout pulleys or its gonna be a pain to acoomodate everyone with their different balancers.
its possible to retain aricon etc, jsut make up an l-bracket and mount the pump under the alternator
i'll edit this tomororw with some pics after i put the sump on