Since you're singling me out, which has in fact pissed me off, allow me to retort:
"At least you will know what and who you are flaming about"
I didn't flame you, if I did it was in jest (did I miss a wink or a smiley)?
I was plain and simply giving shit to the Holden HSV - flaming it, yeah. But I know what I'm flaming, right? As has been said, way better than a ford, but that's no mean achievement. I drive a (new, low end) falcon MKII. It has ~500 kms, of which I've done 489.
Why am I giving the HSV shit? It's very overpriced for it's performance and technology. Need more power? BIGGER CYLINDERS! It's been done to death. Horrid fuel consumption. My RB26 chews nothing anywhere near a 6L V8.
Holden build quality is poor. Countless horror stories from new owners that have come from everywhere, even ACA I think.
Also, I cannot wait to race one. From the lights, public road, I don't give a shit. You may or may not realise (since you've researched me) a lot of my friends are V8 heads, and don't like "rice burners". I can even eat rice. It sure don't go near my car.
Anyway; your purpose has been fulfilled - checking if your mate's car will be faster. I think I'd have named the thread after what I was looking for, but that's just me.
If you car is a manual and his is an auto R33 with minimal mods, you have a very good chance I reckon. In fact if I were driving the HSV, I'd bet money on myself.
Because it's auto.
Anyway peace; I was overboard, but I stand by my points, and dislike what I sensed to be a personal attack.