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Yea guys I was stoked at the turn out. Full grid and no rain, living the dream !! We had 24 cars under 1min on the Sprint track which is awesome. I will start getting the Holy Grail list sorted on the Time Attack website. I've put my order in for pics from the photographers. Thanks heaps to the volunteers, they are the guys who make the event run so well. Was great to see so many Skylines out there running hard. Reminds me of the old days. I will have all the times etc up soon. Lots of data to process. Paul

Final test with ViPEC interface was completed on the weekend. Now have an EVO using a V44 running my EM PRO II. I have to do that new post I have been promising with the final build specs. Next step is getting these units out there. If you are at the July 8 track day there will be a few cars in the pits running my gear if you want to check it out.

Hey Guys, the track day is booked out and some. Check out the running list on the front page of www.timeattack.com.au There are nearly 20 guys capable of lapping under the 1minute mark on the Sprint track. All welcome to spectate on the day. As its a SAU sponsored event it would be great to have support for the Skyline guys running.

Hi SydneyKid, it has taken a while but I am getting to the pointy end of the project ! I have instrumented up 2 cars, the other is a R33 GTST. In that I have put a sensor module that reads LateralG, Longitudinal G and Yaw Rate. I should be able to make this sensor for around $200. I will have test data from it after July 8 track day. You could also just use a crossbow sensor or something similar as well, just cost more$$ I am currently track mapping with GPS and have the option to split the laps up using other channels if GPS not available (wheel speed etc). I still have to write the module to use lateral G and speed to track map without GPS. You could put a track side beacon and use one of the digital input channels as a lap marker, then use the lap split option I have to mark the laps. In the end there will be a few options to mark / split laps. You are completely right about the software being the significant part of the project. The logger I have build I have made as functional as I could for a good build price. My main motivation was I didn't want the memory to be a pain thats why it logs to USB keys. Simple and cheap. I did add the fan / cooling pump control option as I found it useful in my car. I also added electric water pump control to the EM PRO II for the same reason. With the input from some guys we also have smart alarms like Fuel Press adjusted by boost and regulator rate and Oil press vers RPM. The best part about the analysis being performed in the desktop software is that it is easy to upgrade. I put a new version out and guys download it with the new features. Same hardware etc. My plan is to release a basic version and get guys using the logger and adding features as we go. To answer your direct questions: Wheel spin / Lockup - if you don't have GPS you could use a wheel sensor. I have not connected one up yet but my input takes a pulse and you enter a multiplier so it should not be a problem. I will add this to the GTST test car as it will probably suffer wheel spin. I will add a function in the analysis software to create a Math channel to make a wheel speed channel based on greatest value between the two rate channels. Lap Split Times - I have set up the software to have lap split. I was also thinking of adding "In Corner Time" as well where you mark entry and exit points of corners. RPM / Wheel Speed - Definately have this channel. This is always useful for seeing gear selection and if divided with driven wheel data you will easily see wheel spin as spikes. Lap Overlay - This is definate. I also added a "Save Best Lap" function where you can tag laps of interest and have them in a quick find list. Like a favorites. EM PRO II - I have added 5 data pages to the EM PRO II to have different screens. I have not put laptime in there but if you think this would be a good feature I can transmit it from the RaceLogger to the EM PRO II for display. I could add this when I add Danh's feature of AFR alarm set using boost. I have looked at using other software for analysis but for 2 reasons I haven't gone that path. 1. This is my hobby and I like doing the development (sad I know), 2. I have total flexibility, if there is an idea I have or someone else has I can feed it straight into the system. Re: article - Using a PLC is an interesting way to go, I would probably use an Embedded PC if I went that path but again the base hardware cost is heaps more. The desktop analysis software will be a work in progress for a while, taking ideas from guys and increasing the functionality. I see this as a journey and the guys who have come on board are like minded. We will keep developing the system and I'm hoping we have a solution that is best for guys running Sprints / amateur racing. The logger works well and we will keep developing sensors / software as we go. It will never be a Motec as I'm only one guy building gear in my spare time, but most cannot afford Motec and their sensors. I am doing this to provide myself and others the chance to use datalogging at an affordable price. With input from experienced racers such as Sydneykid I am pretty sure we are headed in the right direction.

Yea it can be displayed however you want. The input is pulses from the gearbox you then enter the multiplier to make it km/h etc.

I left GPS off the above list. When I remembered to add it, the post edit time had passed. You can plug a GPS into the RaceLogger. I use the Garmin unts. Its called a GPS 18 5Hz. I have made the RaceLogger connector for it supply power as well, so I just have to put a DB-9 on the GPS module and its plug'n'play

The current batch of EMO PRO II is $599 including the accessory kit which is the 2 stage shift lights, remote alarm ack button, page select button and the alarm buzzer (usually charge extra for this stuff). I have 8 of these in stock now. If you would like one contact DirtGarage (he is also the ViPEC guy. As a thanks for his efforts he is the one with the codes to enable this option in the EM PRO II). Otherwise you can also contact Duncan. We are currently getting his units sorted and installed. Both these guys have been helping with development and will represent my products on the Forum as I cannot sell direct (forum rules). I also have good prices on the sensors (oil pressure, temp etc) so let these guys know what you need. The RaceLogger, which logs all the channels from the EM PRO II plus its own channels will hopefully be around the same price. I haven't priced a few of the items required to build them since the Financial Crash and AU dropping. Hopefully nothing has changed much but its always best to check first. I don't have any of these in stock now, but if you are interested in one please let one of the guys know or post here your "interest" so I can judge how many to make in the next batch. Thanks. Also I am still working on the analysis software for the RaceLogger. This will be a work in progress with all the feedback on functions etc from the guys who have the unit. Should be a fun project. I didn't get as far as I hoped with it this weekend as I was playing with my car My sensor list is now as follows (I have EM PRO II and my 4WD Controller hooked to the RaceLogger to datalog all the channels) EM PRO: Oil Pressure EM PRO: Oil Temperature EM PRO: Water Temperature EM PRO: Intake Temperature EM PRO: Boost EM PRO: Fuel Pressure EM PRO: RPM EM PRO: Wheel Speed RL: Throttle Pos RL: Ambient Temp RL: Wide Band O2 RL: Steering Angle RL: Water Temp - Duplicated to Run the Thermo Fans RL: GPS RL: ? spare input RL: ? spare input RL: ? spare input RL: ? spare input RL: ? spare input RL: Battery Volts RL: Brake Pedal (on/off) RL: PowerFC Knock Light (on/off) RL: ? spare rate input 1 RL: ? spare rate input 2 4WD Controller: Lateral G 4WD Controller: Longitudinal G 4WD Controller: Torque Split I will come up with some more sensors for the spare inputs, maybe AFM voltage, gearbox temp, diff temps etc. Also the 2 free rate inputs would be good on some wheels for wheel spin etc. Its a work in progress. (in Mick's car I have installed a Gyro to get Yaw rate as well, so that will be interesting to plot) I will get some graphs sorted for the data I collected last track day. So far I have just been outputting the data to CSV format and importing to EXCEL for charting.

Hey Guys, only have 8 free morning spots now but 25 free afternoon spots. If you want to join us, email me at [email protected] Paul

The fuel pressure sensor I have been using is Honeywell MLH100PGB06A 100PSI the connector is Motec Part: 65013 We have been connecting the the wheel speed sensor to the gearbox pulse. The way the device works is you connect it to a pulse train and then enter the multiply factor to convert it to wheel speed. A good thing to do is get a GPS as well, then you have GPS speed and can get lap times / splits etc and if you subtract GPS speed from wheel speed you can get an idea of where you are wheel spinning easily.

Thanks Ross, just had the flu. Feeling 95% better now. I have been using Simon's data to continue with the RaceAnalysis software. I am aiming at getting the data imput/pre-processiing lap splitting etc sorted by this weekend. Hey Paul, thanks for hooking me up with the ViPEC it has made a greatt addition to the device. Hi 9krpm, thanks for the positive feedback. I will see what I can do with your latest request Tektrader69, I would be pretty certain that it won't work with the Motec output datastream. Having said that if you want to use the unit with your car it happily taps into existing signals. Apart from the guys with ViPEC that's how all the other installs have been done. I have made the inputs very high imedance so they do not effect the ECU at all. Dazzman has both my EM PRO II and RaceLogger in his car and it runs Motec. Most of the additional signals you need have to be added such as a good Oil Pressure sensor / Oil Temp sensor / fuel pressure Sensor. On Darren's car we tapped into RPM, Water Temp, Intake Temp. I have tried to make the unit totally flexible. You can load in any calibration to any channel. Rename channels if you want different functions. AKA for 9krpm's request above we will probably reallocate the Intake temp to AFR for that alarm. Paul

Hi Ross, thanks for asking about the unit. As per Simon's post the unit is about complete. I have just been dotting the i's and crossing the t's with details. There are now 3 cars that have been tracked with EM PRO II and RaceLogger setups with other cars just behind. The units are working well and we seem to have got all the bugs etc sorted out now. I am currenlty doing the data analysis software for the RaceLogger which is looking good so far. I will get the final specs of both units together and put up a post with sample data etc. Its been good working with guys from here on these projects and the feedback has been great. Its going to be good having continued input into the data analysis software as well. The last change I made to the EM PRO II was a suggestion from Danh with the fuel pressure alarm. It now lets you enter the rising rate regulator factor and using boost have an alarm that traces the actual fuel pressure. Makes a lot of sense as I did this manually in EXCEL when looking at my data from the May 19 track day.

Hey Guys, Next track day is on wed July 8. It is a casual Timed event with no series round. Morning Session: Sprint 2hr, Clubman 2hr (ideal for beginners) Afternoon Session: Sprint 3hr, National 1hr Also check out the front page of the www.timeattack.com.au website. I have a sample there of a new kudos list I want too start from July 8 for guys who do under 1minute on the Sprint track.

It will work with any gauge, you just have to sniff the signal line. The problem is the calibration data. With the Dash you don't really need gauges as well as all the info is shown on the Dash and if something goes out of range you get an alarm. Having said that, if you really want a particular gauge I can calibrate the sensor if you send it to me and add the data to a public library for others. Here is the brochure and specification sheets that Cam has done for the product (thanks Cam) http://www.timeattack.com.au/about/about/em-pro-ii.html http://www.timeattack.com.au/about/about/e...ifications.html

The sensors used by the dash are not usually the best. You can tap into other sensors such as the Apexi as I allow the user to enter any calibration data they want. You just need the calibration data for that particular sensor. If you PM me the sensor details I can check if I already calibration data for it. Else you can get new sensors, which are not very expensive.

Hi Roy, the display is 4 lines of 20 characters. The display can easily be read from the drivers seat to any mounting postion so there isn't a need to join lines and make them bigger. You can setup the pages however you like, one guy has put oil pressure at the top of every page as he likes to see it all the time. You can make pages with 1 to 4 items. Thanks for great feedback dazmo, 9krpm. Paul

Hi, Paul Ruzic here. I designed and built the EM PRO II and RaceLogger. I will happily discuss the technical specs of the unit but cannot discuss pricing or availability as per forum rules. The EM PRO II was originally designed as a stand alone unit, then dirtGarage made the introduction to Ray Hall and the ViPEC ECU. So now if you have a Vi-PEC you can plug it in and reallocate all the normal inputs the EM PRO II already has to other channels expanding its monitoring capability. Technical Features: 6 analog input channels Engine RPM input Vehicls speed input Remote data page push button Remote alarm acknowledgement push button input 2 Stage shiftlight output Warning light output Alarm buzzer output Auxillary output for a relay triggered by RPM or Speed or for PWM electric water pump speed control. Serial data output for loggint with the RaceLogger Serial data connection to the Vi-PEC ECU The EM PRO II has 5 data used to show details of each individual data channels that are being monitored. Each of the pages can be configured to show up to four input channels at at time. An optional remote input button mounted within easy reach of the driver can be used to scroll between the pages. Each monitored channel can have a "greater then" and a "less than" value assigned to them. The alarm situation can trigger the warning light / buzzer or both. The proiority of the alarms can be set so the most important alarms are always at the top. Up to three alarms can be seen on the screen at once. The alarms can be set to hold for a minimum time so they are never missed or to not clear until acknowledged. To ensure oil pressure is maintained through the rev range, the EM PRO II has two additional oil pressue points that are set referenced to RPM. Without a Vi-PEC you can piggyback signals from the ECU (so far we have done units in cars running Motech, Haltech, Autronic, PowerFC) and also provide addtional sensors for signals ECU's don't usually support such as Oil Pressure, Oil Temp etc. With a Vi-PEC you can still add up to 6 additional channels using extra sensors. Vi-PEC Channels Supported RPM Knock - also allows option to alarm knock against the Knock target table MAP MGP Injectory Duty Injector Duty (stg) Coolant Temp Air Temp MAF gs Knock Count Temp 1 Temp 2 Temp 3 Temp 4 Volt 1 Volt 2 Volt 3 Volt 4 Volt 5 Volt 6 Volt 7 Volt 8 Volt 9 Volt 10 Volt 11 When connected to the Vi-PEC data logging is performed with the Vi-PEC ECU. When stand alone the EM PRO II can be connected to the RaceLogger to add to the logging capabilities of the RaceLogger. The EM PRO II has external Shift lights / warning lights and a large alarm buzzer for optimim setup for racing. The external page select / alarm acknowledge buttons also allow for driver convienient mounting for racing. I have to also thank guys like Paul, Darren, Duncan, Mick, Noel, Gervase, Simon, Danh, Cam, Mark, Mitch, Pierce and others (you know who you are) who have supported this product through development and testing. Thats the quick overview of the unit. I almost have a brochure ready (thanks Cam) which will detail all the information.

About 2 weeks to go guys. If you want to come and play get booked in !!

Damn, I had to change the dates and space the events out more. Hopefully it will be easier for more people to make each round with grater space between events. Its about 2 weeks until the next one, so its time to get organised and prepped up.

Hey Guys, The next track day has been rescheduled to Thursday April 2. The weather should be kinder so it’s looking set to be a great day of driving. Morning Session: Timed Laps on the Sprint Track with the last hour on the National for a taste. Afternoon Session: Project Mu Series Round 3 on the Clubman Track. It’s a points based series so everyone is welcome to book in. As you know we group the cars on lap times so there is a group for everyone. Round 2 Results: The points from round 2 are up on the website at: http://www.timeattack.com.au/about/about/p...table-2009.html To get involved join at www.TimeAttack.com.au

Hey J-Boy its been a while now. How is everything going?

Give Mick from Signature a call

Low numbers at this event. If you can make it you will probably get more laps than you can drive

Hey Guys, The next track day is two weeks away. Its the same format with general timed sprints in the morning and the Project Mu Time Attack Series Round 2 in the afternoon. If you want to get booked in, join up at www.TimeAttack.com.au See you there. Paul

Hey Guys, ROUND 2, TUESDAY FEB 24 The next track day is two weeks away. Its the same format with general timed sprints in the morning and the Project Mu Time Attack Series Round 2 in the afternoon. If you want to get booked in, join up at www.TimeAttack.com.au See you there. Paul

The afternoon dired out and was not too bad. Good pics Mick, can you email me them so I can use some on the website. Thanks. The rounds 1 points are up on the time attack website now. Congrats to the guys who did well. Time to start thinking about round 2 on Feb 24.