No Crust Racing

Even by that definition I'm still living DAT ecto life.

Which one? Pretty sure neither apply to you

Haha it's dream boats this week.

I don't think any of you dream boats even lift. Or have race cars.

I think it's just a different definition of "fit", at 93kg, though I had a huge J-Lo ass. My Silvia seat however, only a chosen few can fit into it. A lot narrower than a Bride.

If you're a big guy we might have different definitions of what sitting in a seat means. Many of my mates cannot handle sitting "in" my race seat in the Silvia.

I like to sit "in" the seat Boz, like you're supposed to, not sit on top where you're relying on the shoulder wings primarily to hold you in.

I think it's more to do with underwear style, so by that graphic I'm an endo.

Hah Icwutudidthur

I couldn't fit comfortably in the GT-R seats =(

I know that feel, maxed out at 93. Plenty of extra love in there at 6ft lol

TIL: Birds had a bulking phase?

Nah, without knowing me it's hard to really take how I respond in proper context, I've got no reason to lie about being pissed or not so you'll just have to take my word, not bothered, not pissed, not rustled, just sharing my point of view. Would be a good test. Your assumption being that they should show similar gains (as a percentage of total BW or starting strength etc). How do you measure and account for things like base metabolic rate that is shown to differ between individuals regardless of body type? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate Even in that article it mentions 26 or so % of the variance was unaccounted for. And you don't think people can genuinely be self describing as "Ecto" (knowing what they really mean is just hard gainer) and not see ANY basis for that claim? That seems like a pretty sweeping generalisation dude, I'm no scientist and I'm often wrong about things but you've got to at least consider that there may be some truth in the idea that some people struggle to gain, and some others likely struggle to lose. I'm like you, I can go up and down as I please now that I know how far away from maintenance I must go to achieve it, in my head though, maintenance is different for everyone and how far you need to move away from it to achieve your goal can also vary widely.

*shrug* I'm not really fussed what people think or whether this or that isn't or is not true. I'm just sharing my experience. If I ate now (as an active person) what I ate as an inactive teen I would definitely put on weight. There's no way I could eat that much that regularly now and stay the same weight. That might not be the case for you, but I'm not speaking for you. That's a big part of my point. The "maintenance" amount you refer to has definitely shifted substantially over time. Put that down to age based metabolism if you want, the fact remains that there are people who at one point or another will find it harder than others to gain weight. I could give two f**ks about ecto/meso etc. I'm more of a metabolism explains it kind of person and some of us, you and I at least in here Birds, had/have faster/better/more aggressive metabolisms that take some serious eating effort to overcome. If people wanna call that being an Ecto, who gives a f**k, you know what they mean. The swearing makes that sound more jazzed up than I am, Jimmies are yet to be rustled.

When I started out, around 21-22 or so I thnk it was, after 12mths of gyming I'd only gained about 4-5kg. I started talking to my gym mates and a trainer and they all said the same thing, it's not what I'm lifting that was the issue it was what I was/wasn't eating. After I shifted focus to what I called my period of "power eating" I actually gained some weight Now I'm a fat kent. Whether that was overcoming something in my makeup or just a change in metabolism due to age I dunno. You'd think if it was genetic I'd have lost it all when I stopped training for 2 years to fix various injuries, I lost a lot of weight, got down to high 70's but didn't go back to the mid 60s. So maybe age is a factor for me too.

I dunno why people get all crazy with flavours. Go for vanilla or unflavoured and add your own stuff at home to taste (baeeires, banana etc). I just go Vanilla, winner every time. As for the body type stuff I disagree a little. I come from a family of skinny runts as Birds puts it and as a teen was heavily into video games and junk food and just eating all the time because it was the thing to do and I still weighed 60kg wringing wet when I left highschool (when the time came around I was also drinking heavily, sugary pre-mix shit) No kg's gained. So genetics/body type do have some impact. Many of my mates living the same lifestyle at the time got fat or at least bigger/heavier. It was a very conscientious effort on my part to gain weight.

Good news, congrats on the sale. I think SAU users (myself included) are so used to seeing cars for sale that we devalue them mentally because we know another one is right around the corner. Glad to hear you moved it.

I simply use it as a term people are familiar with Boz, I'm well aware the "types" were dispelled. My point being, some people do genuinely find it harder to gain. I was one of them. I eat substantially less now and maintain a desired weight with far greater ease. So age/metabolism definitely play a part. That's not to say that age and metabolism have an unbreakable link (you can improve or damage your metabolism regardless of age to an extent), just that a lot of guys find it hard to gain when they are younger, not all but many.

Yeah I should add I did not use gainers. Just protien and lots of eating plus lots of gym.

As a former ecto, because it can be bloody hard to gain with a fast metabolism. I spent far more time working on my eating than I did lifting. Really it wasn't until I got a bit older that I could stop working so hard to gain and maintain.

Pretty common for guys who make their own supps I thought. When I was researching making my own it came up a lot. In the end I remember that I am an absolute rank amateur and basic protein was enough for me

Don't break your spine, just sayin

If you're doing CrossFit I'm sure we'll hear from you..