No Crust Racing

Used mini cooper would be a bit of fun for sure, wonder what they go for these days. I reckon when it comes time to buy a replacement for the S13 I'll deffo be buying something already setup if possible. The value for money is awesome. Building up a car yourself is a lot of fun but it can be a bit pricey and time consuming.

On the street Roy, not on the track. I dont like driving my S13 on the street coz it's a bit gay and looks stupid with half interior and spoiler etc. Anything goes on the track, went to a fun day once in a 79 corona wagon, was awesome.

I know what a clubman is, never heard the term westie before or pbr, just clubman Hell it was only a couple of months ago I found out what a Radical was, and that was only because Neil was always banging on about them lol Should have clarified that when I say homo mobile, I'm referring to my S13 as a street car. I dont mind it on the track, I'm sure clubmans are great on the track also, just not my cup of tea on the street.

Yeah but given I don't drive my S13 on the road because it is a homo mobile, the clubman is kind of in that catagory

Ahh, nah not for me. Though my car is track oriented it is still street reg'd and on the rare occasion will get driven to a mates place or something.

lol I think you'll find I said not having cooling issues wtf is a Westie?

Richard I dont want NA over my CA18DET. Dealing with some turbo issues got me thinking about the NA stuff so I thought it would be a good discussion topic, which it has been, that is all. I've got as much turbo passion as the next bloke on here, I've had 3 turbo Nissan's so far, and I doubt that'll stop. I'm not jumping ship and as much as I like the idea of swapping engines around in other cars, the likelihood of me ever doing that is slim to none. I am up there with the best of the budget enthusiasts and base a lot of my choices on bang/buck. Which is why I went CA S13, and not 308 VK commodore or something of the like. I don't think I can really make it any clearer. Conversation topic only, not intention to do so.

We're on the same page I think "no doubt you could buy a complete CA18DET and gearbox for less than a set of Bearings and rings" Main reason I haven't gone SR lol So who is running decent lap times at Winton in NA? Club level that is, not future tourers etc

dunno if I'd wanna go carby lol yeah that's exactly what I've done. only minor power mods, some boost, exhaust, ic, pod, bit of fuel and that's it. All my time and money has gone into suspension, brakes, tyres etc. I should probably put some time/money into driving lol I'm sure there's 30secs a lapt to be gained there lol

Again, I'm not having cooling issues lol Was just using that as an example. AFR's and Boost control are two other things that are more important on a turbo car than they are on an NA one, boost obviously lol. Of course AFR's matter on an NA car also but once they're set they're much more likely to stay happy that on a turbo car from what I've seen. I'm not having problems with afrs or boost either, just using those as examples of why people might like the idea of NA. All i was really getting at with this was that given some of the issues I've had to work on with my own car, and we all have issues at some point, NA appeals in some ways due to less complexity and potential points of failure. Then I was just curious if anyone out there is rocking the NA track car idea and if so in what. I'm not beating on my car just musing

Ahh yeah I've seen those, looks the goods.

lol! Nah I'm not having temp control issues, my car is only a 1.8L turbo so my water and oil temps are really good even after lots of thrashing, only added basic just jap oil cooler. Was just using that as an example of forced induction issue considerations. I know it's an issue for all cars but obviously having a big fat heat soaked turbo doesn't help.

Yeah fair point. M3 parts would be rough I reckon =\ I've always wanted one though GT-R idea is still alive - problem of course is money and weight - This is just random musings after dealing with annoying turbo specific issues on the S13. I'm not about to go buy an NA track car just yet lol

RWD would be nice, escort is getting a bit old. Wonder how you'd go with an S2000 engine in an S14... What do they make factory 170-180kw or so? So with a bit of work you might get it to crack the 200kw mark, so say 140-150atw's not lightning quick I guess, probably want a lighter donor chassis.

Just wondering what people think of NA track cars, I've got a turbo S13 and sometimes I wish I didn't have to deal with boost control or worry about afr's as much or deal with increased under bonnet temps and the like. Sure there are many pros to forced induction motoring but there are a few cons too. That got me thinking about what real options people have to go NA. Aside from swapping V8's into smaller cars, which then leads to torque control issues with clutches and diffs etc. NA Silvia's go like puss from what I've seen, even the last model Autech S15's aren't much chop. I guess there's a few BMW's that might be alright but parts are probably pricey, likewise something like an S2000, doubt it's cheap to repair/mod. What do others think and what are people running if you've got a decent NA car that runs respectable times? I'm referring more to track cars based on road cars and not so much things like open wheelers or purpose built things like Radicals. Just my random thoughts for the day.

Aww

Marlin didn't I offer you my Silvia and slab for the 34

auto elec said it wasn't needed and used the r33 as an example. Just wondering how that would work too, would you need a fuse to handle the full pca rating or just the cca rating? Voltage at battery is 12.64v and with ignition on it's 12.31v at the connection point in the engine bay. Dunno what it is when cranking as I've only got one pair of hands right now.

Almost done, Wiring is fixed in place under the car, all the terminals have been crimped and wrapped, isolator works fine, voltage from front to rear is good, car cranks well and starts quickly. Just gotta make a bracket to hold the battery in place now, and fix the cable to the boot floor. Orientated the isolator so that I can use the elec aerial hole for the remote pull location. I'm no auto electrician or master mechanic so I'm sure it looks agricultural to some but it works

This bad boy showed up today. Hoping to finish wiring and fire it up this weekend maybe.

No comments on the warping issue?

That's kind of how I read it too. I'm thinking that the only team orders will be race til near the end then see where everyone is in the running order, make a call from there. Anyone of them could bin it on the first corner, and as was mentioned, Mark has been starting pretty poorly.

Just to throw this into the mix. Though I don't know this first hand, I've heard plenty of mention about warping housings when using a bag. This would be something to consider on a race car that sustains high temps. Or is this just an old wives tale?

Wow Kell that is pretty harrowing stuff, so glad to hear that you're in reasonable shape given what the outcome could have been.

I'll take a few more test pics and point out what I'm talking about as far as what I think should/could look better. As for the difference in fstop and iso number, why would the Canon be choosing such a different set of figures and producing a result that so much richer in colour? TBH the Nikon did look more representative of the real colours, the table protector is not that orange.