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Are you sure about this? EPA might be a national governing body, but I'd be surprised if the VicRoads can defect a car registered with the NSW RTA :confused:

Of course not... They're different states. Just like if you drive your car to Victoria, you're not subject to THEIR power restriction laws.

Fair enough... You're in a very VERY small minority my friend, and as I said before, you got caught up with the majority. Bummer. Also, just because you've been riding a bike for 10 years, doesn't mean you know how to handle a 400kw GTR on the roads.... right? But I see where you're coming from, and I agree, but you'd fall into maybe 0.05% of the P-plater population.

That's actually an excellent suggestion They have a massive amount of space and easy entry and exit... I wonder if they'd let us use the carpark for free though :confused:

What????? I read that the new law was based on power-weight ratios. Not whether or not a car was turbocharged or not? :confused:

Quite simply, I have this attitude in real life, as well as on the forums. What attitude is that? Well........... I'm opinionated and vocal. Two things that causes kids on internet forums to arc up, if I happen to disagree with them... Funny thing is how people LOVE IT when I argue on THEIR side and put forward their point of view instead of shooting it down That's the problem with the internet. There is no emotion, and lack of timely responses. These two combined = butt-hurt forumers. Take it easy, and believe me when I say that if we had this conversation in real life, you wouldn't be feeling half the "anger" you are now, because you have the added beauty of the tone and emotion in my voice to convey my mood Yes. ALL P-PLATERS. I'll say it again for you, in case you misunderstand again. ALL P-PLATERS LACK EXPERIENCE. Let me give you a hint... All the go-karting and "dealing with race-prepped cars" means sh1t-all when you have to drive on the roads and contend with the 17 year old kid who just got his licence and is thrashing the CR4P out of his WRX and weaving in and out of traffic. All the dirt-bike riding experience in the WORLD means jack-sh1t when you have to contend with mothers who are late in driving their kids to school. I'm not going to be conceited and say that I'm better than all P-plate drivers. I don't know that, and you don't know that I'm not. That was just a stupid claim with no basis whatsoever :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Do you seriously not realise that you just concreted my argument right there?!?!? That above, just REEKS of immaturity. How, you ask? Because a more mature person would not have gotten into a car whilst they were so emotional, and potentially cause a wreck, and hit another car/pedestrian/President and hurt themselves/other people/little kids/puppy dogs/bunny rabbits and cause a big pile up/petroleum tanker to explode/nuclear powerplant meltdown. Now of course I'm exaggerating and being stupid, but do you see my point? Had you been 30 years old, and been through all that before, you would have been much less likely to hop into your car and take out your frustrations by speeding on our public roads. What if, instead of that 80kw diesel Mercedes, you had a 400kw GTR. You my friend would not have been going 95 in a 60 zone. You would have been going 240 in a 60 zone. Do you understand where I'm coming from? No you don't. You sounded like an emotional, and immature teenager. Nothing wrong with that, it's only natural. But it's probably best if we kept those emotions under check and not hand them the keys to a GTR to take out all that anger and emotion out on. Nothing, other than not giving you a licence in the first place. Is that what you would prefer? So nothing could have prevented you hopping into a car and driving around angry at the world and taking it out on that go-fast pedal..... but damage done was limited to a speeding ticket by the fact that you had a slow car. If you had a powerful car, you may or may not be here talking to us now. So let me finish by saying all your arguments are based on "But not all P-platers are immature/hoons/morons/***cwits.... And I agree with you 100%. You sound like you may very well fall into the "excluded" category......... But you're no longer a pimple-faced 17 year old... The two extra years you have on fresh P-platers adds a LOT to maturity and life experience. Fact of the matter is, the MAJORITY of P-platers lack the maturity and self-restraint to handle driving a powerful car. If we can reduce the road toll by limiting the power of cars P-platers can drive, is that a worthwhile agenda to chase? My answer is YES. Don't throw the "more driver education is the way to go" casebook in my face, I'm probably the biggest advocate of that idea, but I also think power restrictions are a good idea. Simple fact of the matter is, P-Platers don't NEED to drive powerful cars with only 1 years driving experience under their belts. If you're one of the mature minority, I'm sorry that you're inconvenienced by this.

Are you going to read the posts, or just post away blindly? The reason why myself and others support this, is because P-platers have only been driving for a year, and lack the maturity and EXPERIENCE to drive a powerful car. Yes, 30 year old P-platers should also be subject to restricted power levels whilst on their P's. As far as I understand, this is the case. OWNED by the rest of your peers. Bummer. You can jump up and down and scream all you like... Fact of the matter is, P-platers are GENERALLY immature, and should NOT be driving powerful cars. If you're the exception, good for you, and if there were more people like you, perhaps we wouldn't NEED these power restrictions. Unfortunately, most P-platers AREN'T like you. This can be evidenced by the kids posting in this very thread, who have written off cars and lost their licences.

Whilst I agree with your push for more driver education, I also agree with the banning of high-powered cars for P-plate drivers. No matter how much education and training you have (and going by your other posts, your parents made sure to expose you to all driving conditions), the simple fact of the matter is that all P-platers lack the EXPERIENCE that might just save their lives whilst driving a powerful car. End of story. Losing your licence in the Merc was 100% your fault. If you were able to lose your licence in an 80kw diesel Merc, do you really think that giving you access to a 400kw GTR would make things any better? No. End of the day, if comes down to this. When you get your P's, you've been driving for 1 year. You have very little driving experience, compared to the rest of the drivers on the road. What NEED could you possibly have, for driving a turbocharged car / V8? Answer? You don't NEED to drive a fast car on your P's. It's a WANT. It's dangerous for you, and other drivers on the road, therefore.... DENIED. You don't NEED to drive a fast car on your full licence either, but at least by that stage you have 4 years driving experience under your belt and hopefully enough maturity to handle a more powerful car. Again, I think the way to solve this is through driver education, but if power restricting P-platers will result in less lives lost on the roads, is that a worthwhile agenda? YES.

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Depends who you call. I've had an engineer call the RTA directly and ask them if my pods were enclosed, was it legal, and the RTA dude said no. Any changes to the intake system can increase/decrease airflow into the engine and thus effect the emissions output of the car. Said engineer signed off my car with a clean bill anyway because he liked it (this was for the normal yearly pink slip for registration renewal, not a defect)

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So............ What time b1tches?

You guys have it all wrong (except for Dundan)... Get a *NICE* daily driver. That's what you're going to be spending 95% of the time driving around in. This is what you're going to be driving around in all the time, why the hell would you subject yourself to driving a $1000 sh1tter everyday just because you're too scared to drive your skyline in case it gets hurt?!?! What's the point in that? You've got it all back-to-front :Oops: After you have a NICE daily driver, go buy yourself a weekend/track car... Something that you wouldn't cry like a little baby over because someone dinged the door at the local shopping centre, or that you blow up at the next trackday. After-all, you only use it for fun and games, so who cares if you fix it when it blows up? I don't know about you guys, but there's no way in hell I'm doing 20-30,000kms a year in a sh1tbox. I want to ENJOY those kms, and not drive around in a deathtrap torture chamber just so my "nice" car doesn't get hurt.......... or driven :uhh: disclaimer: of course this doesn't apply to those people who can afford a Mercedes CLK55 daily driver AND an R34 GTR track car

The lameness is overwhelming.... Mmmmmmmmmmm steak...

You have a long way to go to make yours look like this

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