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GTS4's are fun, but don't expect it to be anything like a GTR. its supposed to be a GTSt that can be used in snowy areas or places where you don't want the rear wheels to get bogged down in. Spend some money on it and you'll have a fun car, but then again, you can usually spend the same amount of money and buy a GTR to start with.

by the topic of the thread I thought you had photos of your car parked next to GTTR34. awesome GT40

actually I have a RWD RB25DET block (with sump) you can have for free right now if you can take it out of my garage.

garage needs a hoist to raise the car and a hook in a structural beam to rig up an engine hoist on... that is all... everything else is optional.

um its an AWD RB20DET, like extra diff n shit... you can't use it in a RWD... unless its just for parts.

does this mean I'm gonna have to bring out the AE86?

Even if ATTESA works (pins 7, 30 and 56), you're not guranteed that the rest of the pinouts of the PFC ECU will work on a stagea. There are so many things that could be different, including the frequencies, voltages etc of signals for the same output. If there is someone who's using a PFC on a AWD RB25DET stagea (not just a RWD one) then it'd be wise to find out what he's using and how its wired in. As for nissan dealers repairing imports, they're about as useful as tits on a bull but maybe you can pull a few strings and find out something.

you were in VIC? lol whereabouts? taking the stag bush bashing are we?

umm... ok, do you think they'd have it, seeing as they've never sold one locally? Just checking the ECU pinouts of the HNR32, ENR33 and the BNR32 and BCNR33, pins 7, 56 and 30 are all the same, across all the models and specs (including the signals they put out). So any of em should really plug and play with the ETS controller.

Plus when you get import approval for a race import it will clearly say on the approval that its not eligible to be road registered ever. You can get a permit commonly called a rally permit in some states, which costs about $100 more than normal rego, that allows you to take the car to and from a workshop, or to events. L2S isn't hard to get, just signing up to a club can get you that, you need a PC or NC minimum. That means log book maintenance, track time, physical tests etc. As said before, easiest thing to do is check the CAMS website. Nigel, I dunno about Rally permit only being issed if the car is held by an R License owner. I got a rally permit for a car and all I had was an L2S. I think its something that's up to the discrepancy of the vehicle registrar in your state rather than commonwealth law.

Pins 7, 56 and 30 on the ECCS Control Unit (or ECU) are common to a lot of other devices in the car, including Automatic gearbox control, cruise control, speedo, HICAS etc. Pins 104 and 25 are specific to RB25DET's (RB25DE's have no inputs into those pins). From the looks of it, it seems that ATTESSA ETS (on an R33 at least) can be wired up manually using a standard GTSt ECU.

you know kam, they say a big sig compensates for a small penis... so I though I'd change your sig to something more appropriate

well weirdly enough I got an email back from the dude with the GTS4 and the stagea engine in japan, he says he's just using the standard auto stagea ECU, and running a piggyback air fuel adjuster on it (HKS F-Con V... lol surprise surprise). Which means a stock ECU and DFA will do exactly what his does, not sure if the DFA/DBC can support a TD06 and slightly heavy mods.. guess I'll find out soon enough. I've asked him where he got his conversion done, and if its in Tokyo or a surrounding prefecture then I'll probably just send the car there to have it done.

well I have a TD06-25G sitting in my garage waiting to be strapped onto the RB25DET when it gets here... so its a pretty high level of tune I'm going for

have you plugged in the PFC to see if it works? Just that on the Apexi catalogue it dosen't list the ENR33 as a supported model. That said, the stock ECR33 and ENR33 ECU's seem to be exactly the same, so maybe it might work. Definitely keen to know if it works. Almost all the Stagea owners I've read on japanese BBS's all use F-Con V Pro's on their Stageas, so that might be an alternative.

modr33s2, you know the R34 and the V35's were in production at the same time right? 2001 was the transition year, and Nissan announced that it was to be the next skyline a while before that. The skylines always traditionally been a passenger car with the occasional generation getting the GTR model. The move to a V35 sedan in japan was pretty well recieved, even by some hardcore enthusiasts, as it was the Skyline getting back to its grass roots. But, you can't please everyone.

I can definitely see resemblences in her to Snowcone, the nose esp, and you both have identical heads of hair

Talk to Ernie from there, he should know what you're goin on about as he mentioned getting a kit ready to offer to their customers when we spoke last.

R32 GTS4 doesn't have Power FC available for it. The GTSt one is done by Apex Engineering, but it dosen't suit AWD. Just looked through the service manuals for the GTS4 and the front diff is a F160, the same as a GTR. The Rear diff is a R200V for the GTS4 and the GTR has an R200. Looks like it can be done with a standard Series 1 Stagea Engine and an R32 GTS4 gearbox, using the standard Stagea ECU... Like this guy here http://www.ktplan.net/fairyrein/joukyu.htm If I remember correctly the R33 RB25DE and RB25DET ECU's are the same, and they are also the same for manual and auto. I've attached the ECU pinouts from the japanese service manuals I have for the R32 and R33. It might be of help. I don't know if I'll be running into the same complications people have when converting their auto stageas to manual, as the GTS4 is already AWD and manual, just needs the engine changed. The engine so far can be sourced out of a ENC34 laurel, a WGNC34 stagea, or a NY34 cedric or gloria. Unfortunately all of them bar one model of series 2 stagea are all auto In any case I've ordered the japanese stagea service manuals for the W34 series, hopefully that'll help me a little better.

deviantArt used to be such a nice place about 4 or 5 years ago, all the people in the design community used to be on there... now its just a cesspool for emo's and msn kiddies and their attempts at "art".

you guys did remember to tick "Add a copy of this message to my sent items folder" before you hit send right? The new forum software dosen't have it enabled by default.

Duncan, the cost of engine plus swap is gonna cost me about 2.5 to 3 grand in japan, whereas it'll cost me a lot more in Australia, plus I'll have an engine I need to get rid of etc. Stagea engines aren't common here yet, and AWD RB25DET's didn't come in R33's. So I'll have to pay for shipping of a car AND and engine, which is a little redundant. StageZilla, that's interesting about the 4.3 ratio of non neo stageas, because the ratios I dug up were Neo6 turbo ratios. So technically the AWD GTS4 system shouldn't have any worries if I got a series 1 stagea engine swapped in. My other alternative would be to upgrade front and rear diffs to GTR items, which I don't really wanna do. Are there any other issues other than ECU with bolting an auto engine into a manual car? There's no secondary throttle for traction control or anything like that is there? As for ECU I was thinking about putting a Power FC in as I'm going to be bolting on some aftermarket turbos to it. Regular Power FC's support non-neo AWD RB25DET's right or do I need to get a special one?

Hey guys, just doing some background research on AWD RB25DET engines. I've got a R32 GTS4 that I'm looking at getting converted to RB25DET in Japan. Parts aren't an issue, but I need to figure out what I need to do to make it all work. The most likely donor of the AWD RB25DET engine is a Stagea. Auto Stag non-neo engines are cheap as chips for low km ones in good condition. The R32 GTS4 is a manual (with an RB20DET). It has a front diff with a ratio of 4.3. GTR's have a ratio of 4.111. Auto Stagea's have a ratio of 4.083. Manual Stagea's have a ratio of 4.111. What will I need to do to make sure that the RB25DET out of an auto stag can be used in a manual R32 GTS4 as far as diff/gearbox is concerned?

Dude its a scam. Move on. You pay $3700 to the escrow, you never hear from them again. The deposit IS the scam.

greaaaat now Josie's a legitimate reason to tell me off for spending time with you on cars. hehe, congrats guys. PS: did you end up going through that Maori manhood initiation in the end with the tat's n shit? Or did you wimp out n get a cute butterfly on your ankle?