danielr34

I would check with your insurance company before choosing an alarm. They usually need an Australian Standards Certified immobiliser system to cover you for theft. Viper remote start alarms are not going to help you with that as they don't have the required features and certification. Also, the main thing that makes an alarm "good" is the installation itself. I have seen top of the range alarms installed poorly and cause a range if problems.

It seems as though you have accidentally programmed the "keyguard" feature. When this feature is activated it requires a switch to have been wired in with a specific wire of the alarm system which has probably not been wired in originally. This is common as the keyguard feature or the hijack feature are optional extras. The only way for the alarm to recognise the ignition on is when the "keyguard wire" sees a signal. (ie through a momentary switch or "carpet switch". If you need more information you would need to IM me.......

It seems the car has a missing Ignition circuit, so you won't have spark and more than likely fuel. If there was an old alarm then it would have had at least 1 immobiliser circuit. If the old alarm had coloured wiring (cheapy) then there is probably an immobiliser relay still wired in to the ignition circuit. To bypass the immobiliser you should have cut some wires and re-joined them back to factory. If you did not cut and solder any wires when removing the old alarm then it explains why it does not start. Look for an aftermarket relay and you should be right from there. 96 Models never had a factory immobiliser and as for the brown plug, it is quite common to have plugs under a dash which do not plug in to anything, chances are it was never plugged in to anything from the beginning, OR, spare plugs are sometimes used for optional extra options that were available for them at that time. Cheers

That pic is just the tracker unit only. The alarm is a separate module. If you can upload a pic of the actual remotes, this can make it easier to identify.

No Worries Nick, As I mentioned however I have nor seen a 2 way paging alarm that is also on the ADR approval list. GSM based expenses are very low if you use the same network as your mobile phone utilise the free sms feature. Also many people do carry their phones with them and many people don't carry keys in their pockets at all times either, so it really depends on the individual. You could simply put an approved immobiliser that meets the criteria such as a proximity immobiliser which is relatively inexpensive and then you can put any kind of 2 way paging alarm to act as the alarm and RF Pager component. Cheers,

You won't find a "Viper Style" 2 way paging alarm system that meets ADR specs. Typically, the Mongoose and equivalent systems utilise a GSM Pager as a separate module, which can be done on the same day as the alarm or at a later stage if you choose. The alarm/immobiliser system itself is what makes it compliant to ADR and insurance companies not the Pager unit. A GSM Pager or GPS Tracker will communicate with your mobile phone and so really you only to use the "one fob" anyway and will work pretty much all over Australia and won't limit you to a 1 or 2 km radius like the Viper style pagers do. Also its much easier to remove the pager or tracker from your car to fit into your next car when you eventually decide to change cars. Leaving the alarm in your car is a good thing when you sell it because it will be needed anyway by the next person who buys your car. Cheers!

try the starter motor test I mentioned

Hi, When you go to start the car (turn the key) does the engine crank? Or do you get nothing at all? When you say it takes 15 or so goes to start the car, are you pressing a remote? or swiping an immobiliser tag attached to your key ring? I ask this because the R32 does not have a factory immobiliser as standard, so if there is one, it would be an aftermarket one, which means there should be a device to disarm the immobiliser when it has armed (ie remote, Transponder Tag, Touchkey Tag etc). If you have nothing but the Nissan key and it takes you 15 or so goes to start your car by removing the key and retrying each time leads me towards your starter motor and the first question I asked. If it does not crank at all or you hear a click sound when you go to crank then either the trigger wire to your starter motor solonoid is not make good contact and needs to be unplugged cleaned (light sand paper job) and then plugged back in. Easy job! If it makes no difference after cleaning the contacts of the trigger wire then it may be the starter solonoid itself. Over the years they can develop dirt and grit internally which can cause the solonoid to be stuck or jammed. To test this you need someone to be at the key testing to see if it cranks while someone else taps or hits the starter motor solonoid area with the handle end of a hammer (preferrably a hammer with a rubber grip or wooden handle). If it decides to start cranking as a result of this then remove the starter motor, pull it apart and wash the internals with a liquid solvent (petrol and a paint brush) dry it up, put back together bolt back up to the car. OR have it reconditioned by Auto Electrician. If it cranks over but does not fire (start) then it is another problem all together. So you would have to get back to me on that.

My advice, don't contact Quiktrak, as they are way too expensive! Arn't we talking about keeping the costs down? Most basic trackers that I refer to can still shut the car down by you, by a simple sms text message whenever you want to. Also can unlock doors by sms if you lock you keys in the car by accident.

I never referred to a mini tracker in my earlier post and if they cost $50 then why shouldn't they play up and fail in 6 months. You cannot expect quality for that price even for a kids toy these days. If you cannot afford a $300 to $400 vehicle tracker and you have a track car that you have spent thousands of dollars on then just strap your car down with $50 worth of chains and padlocks people! People spend thousands of bucks on car audio, engine and interior, but do not want to spend a few hundred dollars for its security??? The better products that I am referring to will not fail, due to heat and vibration and I have never seen one fail as a result of this. Been fitting them for years to everything including track cars and excavators. They also have separate antennas for both GSM (to communicate to the owner) and GPS to collect data from the satellites. I do not have any links where you can purchase these trackers but Google will give you plenty of results. I am here to advise on security options, not to do the shopping around for people. The $800 price tag I mentioned was a general price (as I cannot give accurate prices for everyone that sells them) and would be the highest price you would probably pay which would include installation. This is still quite cheap compared to a monitored tracking system and service which can cost up to $2000 for the tracker and installation plus $200 - $300 per year for monitoring costs. If you want accurate prices then do some searching, make some phone calls, compare their prices and their features. If your budget is only $50 then your cheapest option is to sleep in your car or sell it to pay the bills.

A basic tracker can cost up to $800 depending on its features and the features you want wired up, the installation (whether you pay a pro or do it yourself) and of course the brand of product. A basic tracker will also need a simcard to send you location info whenever you ask it, and the costs associated with txt messaging which is very minimal if you use the same phone carrier as your personal phone. It would not cost more than $10 per month if you had it on a basic plan (Telstra). Some carriers offer a 365 day prepaid plan which needs topping up annually, with that kind of plan it would probably cost around $20 for the whole year. There are no other annual monitoring costs or subscription costs associated with these trackers because you are doing the monitoring personally. They are a one time purchase product so you can remove it and put it into your next pride and joy. You can be lying on a beach on Hamilton Island and know exactly where your car is within seconds.

Just fit a vehicle tracker unit into it. You can do it yourself, a basic tracker only needs 3 wires to be connected so you can track and monitor it.

So, did you find a blown fuse or the cause to your alarm failure issue?

Well I don't know what alarm you have, but it would be an inline blade style fuse and it would be rated at either 5 amp (orange colour), 10amp (red colour) or 15amp (blue colour). Why are forum users scared to use the phone to solve problems, I don't understand?????

I will not be on the emails after 6pm to answer your questions and help you fix your alarm problem cause I'm going out, so you should call me before then if you want to find your answers.

There would not be any fuses inside the module. The fuse for the alarm (if any) would be on the wiring harness coming out of the alarm module itself.

What alarm wires were found behind the fuel filter? Does the alarm respond to the remotes at all? Does the car start? Have you noticed anything that does not work? (ie radio, AC, wipers, cigarette lighter etc) All alarms should have their own fuse. Check all fuses under dash, in engine bay, near the battery area if it is an R33 and check all fusable links as well. Or call me to diagnose over the phone if you want to save time. 0430534248

Help is only a phone call away. Emails back and forth will take too long

I am based in the western suburbs, but if you call me I can give you an insight as to the problem, what is causing it, how to fix it and the costs involved to fix it (both DIY and Pro costs). My phone is always on for free technical support, if I don't answer leave a message and I will call back. Just don't call me at extreme or ridiculous hours like 4am in the morning.

I do not sell alarm systems on their own, I'm not an ebay store, nor do have a shopping cart system on my website. I sell them and supply the mobile service in install them. All the products I sell, I know have been installed correctly this way and I can therefore give the maximum warranty on the products and the installation. I just replaced an alarm 2 days ago that a customer bought from ebay and tried to fit themselves. The alarm was fried and the car was sitting around for 3 weeks before they called me to come out and rectify the problem. It cost the customer more money in the long run, when all they wanted was to save money.

Children? At my age I can't help but to take that as a compliment hahaha. Thanks Tony Those years are gone now.......lol I having nothing more to add to this thread except for this: Don't judge all pros as 1 and put us in the same category, judge us individually by the work we do and have done in the past. Every week I get at least one customer who asks me the question "have you ever done one of these cars before?". Which tells me they are worried about my expertise and their car. Standing over my shoulder and watching everything I do and by the end of the installation they throw in a 6 pack of beer and are asking me for a bunch of business cards to pass on to their mates. I'm done on this and just want to get back to actually helping out with car alarm issues and anything related. Cheers to all DIY's! and Cheers to all Pro Installers!

We are not here to add fuel to any fires, but more to prevent the actual fire (in your car!) From first time installers that ask the question "about to fit a car alarm into my car, is it easy?" That's all. We don't want to tell people how good we are or how to do things. We just show concern for your vehicles' and the industry. If too many non experienced installers do botched up jobs (not saying its you Johnny or Ricky) but in general, then we get a series of easy vehicle thefts due to the poor installs the insurance companies will come down harder on the consumers because the Mongoose M60 or M80 is no longer worthy enough to meet their needs and the costs of comprehensive insurance will rise across the country. I remember when we did not need an Australian Standards alarm or immobiliser to get full comprehensive insurance. These rules or regulations were introduced due to the number of increased vehicle thefts in the late 90's by a few insurers and then later became part of the criteria. We can thank the performance cars for this such as SS Commodore's and Clubsports, performance Fords and then of course Subaru WRX which beat Commodore and became the number one target for car theft. NRMA in fact had sent documentation to Subaru stating they will no longer insure the B4 Liberty and WRX Impreza due to the nigh number of thefts, this would have resulted in massive loss in sales for Subaru. This is how Brant Corporation got involved and offered the 6 point immobiliser/alarm system for all new B4's and WRX's and a recall on some 3000-5000 WRX's already sold for customers to bring their cars in and get a free 3 point keypad immobiliser. At this time I was their number 2 contracted installer and was doing these installs pretty much every day of the week from Newcastle down to Canberra. Long story short, we don't care if you do your own alarm, just do it right or get someone to do it right. For the record Troy has made nothing but positive posts on this forum over the years I have been here. Just ask all the members he has helped out and all the questions he has answered over the years. What is the deal with people saying things about others without doing some research? Just like when doing a car alarm you should never confuse your positives with your negatives hahaha............just an installers joke.....guess I have been doing this too long, especially if I'm the only one laughing hahaha. Peace out people!

Well put Troy, explained from someone a little calmer than I was at 2am this morning. I am passionate about my work and my business profile, just like yourself, if that is my biggest downfall, then it is a win win for SAU members, my customers and people that know me. Have a great day!

I have never disagreed with any DIY installation at anytime Ricky, in fact I have helped hundreds of people over the years with installs over the phone from all over Australia including wiring colour codes and their exact locations and how to test for them. I help customers find replacement remote controls for all types of alarms from all over Australia and then guide them through the process of re-learning their new remotes over the phone and its all free. I am always happy to help. I just will not put the information in text format and spread it all over the internet and most people in my industry would agree. If you want help with your alarm install, call me so I can verify that you are not a car thief who wants to bypass a Mongoose M80 in 20 seconds to steal someones car. I usually always help out. This is not a car stereo we are talking mate its car security and for the most part of my career it was always imperative to have both an Installers Licence and a Master Licence renewable each year in order to stay in accordance with the NSW Security Industries Act. If I could help it, there would be not a single wiring diagram of any of our good alarms on the internet. I did it with Autowatch products for over 10 years, get phone calls every day from people asking me for diagrams or help because they don't know what's what with the alarm. Again don't mind helping out, at least the thieves are getting filtered out to some degree. If you have a look at my early posts Ricky you will see I encourage DIY's by mentioning to use test lights (test equipment) when looking for wires for an alarm install. Also, I have spent the last hour in my website's back office and there was never an email sent to me from you via my website. I check my emails a couple of times each night, 7 days a week I would have found it by now. You did PM me asking for a price to purchase only a Mongoose M80G, I don't always check my PM's for a start, as I do not expect sales from SAU and I do not have a store for you to purchase the goods from. I am strictly a mobile service business hence the name. I do not sell alarms and deliver them. You also asked me where to hide the module, why would I tell someone I have not even spoken to, where the good spots are to hide the module? Anyone can join a forum and ask these questions, do we give this information out to everyone that sends a PM? Remember this is the internet and SAU has a very high rank with Google in the "Car Alarms" topic. This is fact. If you want questions answered why don't you call, its much quicker than sending emails through websites and PM's through other websites. I have built my reputation on this website through my helpful input over the past 6 or so years Ricky, so be very sure of what you say before you discredit my business on this forum. Its now 2am and I am replying because you are trying to discredit my business. My business publicity is doing just fine mate, I did my first car alarm when I was 19 years old, I'm now 39 yrs old and people say "do not use a testlight or it will blow an airbag!" I remember saying that when airbags were first invented! And if you can show me how to use heatshrink on the indicators, door circuit, boot circuit, neg or pos trigger central locking circuits for every make and model vehicle (not just Skylines) we have in Australia, without burning or melting any other wires around them and still maintain and insulated connection, then I will throw away the the electrical tape and start using heatshrink. I do agree however that heatshrink is excellent for maintaining and insulated and secure connection, I use it all the time on trucks & trailor's, marine applications and high end SPL vehicles. All in All, let it be said.... I'm happy to help out the DIY's, always have and always will, its who I am. Just can't give away the important info onto any forum. If you have a problem with your alarm or central locking and need help to diagnose the cause my phone and emails are always open, although phone is better because it saves a lot of time in typing.

Hope your not referring to me mate about home electrical tape. You ask us to get off our highhorse mate a couple of threads ago and now your saying that anyone who uses electrical tape is a home. I cant help but be offended by that you newb. Marty's work is top notch and for the record bud Marty used to have me do all his alarm installs for him at one stage. He does them now, in house so he can actually make some money. Just who are you anyway? I dare you to start a car alarm business mate, just to see you fall off your highhorse, because your shit don't stink I'm guessing!