+1 on trying to do it naturally as much as possible. i have trouble puttin on weight BIG TIME so i crank the carb powder a bit, it helps, but also changed my food, how many times i eat and how often i work out. Its hard work seeing heaps of heroes on juice really pisses me off, especially now that im bustin my ass off and im still half their size lol... all good tho as long as i aint a toothpick no more !!!