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It's too small for the drag car , you need a bigger shot to be tempted

More. I'd like to see a 200 - 300 hp direct port If you have never done it before the 70 shot will open your eyes.

This is a known fact. ceramic particles traveling that fast aren't going to be stopped by exhaust gas. Imagine shooting an bullet (even if very small) into your exhaust port against the gas flow. Slaughter and others; * the damage occurs through the exhaust port . Not the intake.

With a cam tweak you can get some more power and bring things on sooner if you want. Have some settings you can try.

The tune is clearly a conservative and safe one. very nice looking curves. It's holding boost well. Answers; 1) as mentioned. The tune takes into account that smashing the motor right to 8,000rpm is not something to encourage on a stock bottom end. 2) Boost is 17psi as you said. What it gets to on the road is always going to vary as the load on the motor will determine boost response, so different gears / up or down a hill and throttle use will effect things. 3) The EVC may be set to 18 psi but, thats a relative number to the boost you actually get and where you get that reading from. If the boost measurement is before or after the intercooler there might be a 0.5 to 1 psi actual difference of pressure in addition to the guages error margins. I'm sure the car is very fast. Thats what matters.

If they are made in china it's marked as such. Someone who owns one can check for you.

Thats a fair way short of their potential. I bought a motor with a set of those that made over 400rwhp completely stock (and with a little wear) and at only 1 bar , on x-speed's dyno

Ask them yourself they are quite helpful guys to chat to.

What size is the rear housing on that turbo?

They don't seem to claim anything like what you just implied? The basic technology mentioned on the intercooler design is just that, basic. Better than stock , better suited to more power, bolt on and most importantly 'cheap'. Two total choices in size only. The testing carried out was aimed at compromise solutions at a price. Based on the criteria they went for it is a compromise of factors so they don't pretend to offer the absolute best solution for every application just two. Mainly aimed at thier bolt on kits. Nothing wrong with that. Flow tested is one thing. Designed to flow well for a particular application completely another. 'Testing' a bunch or cores is one thing. Designing cores based on testing for an application , another. If you go to ARE they will 'design' an intercooler based on your application. Flow bench testing of end tanks designs and intercooler. They make intercoolers and radiators etc. so it's not a problem to hold a bucketload of stock of the bits for custom work. On the other hand Nizpro offers limited choices that at the same time represent value but, also mean they don't have to keep a load of dead stock that may not be used. Nizpro would be the first to offer the suggestion of a custom intercooler outperforming their off the shelf unit. I would say the 30rwkw improvement is doable with a custom ARE at a power level of 400rwkw if the intercooler used is just a bigger version of the china core on thier website. Thats no disrespect to Nizpro, just reality of offering a broad appeal product. Custom = win. I am sure Nizpro would agree about being able to design and custom build around an application resulting in gains. It justs cost some money which doesn't make it 'bad value' but, rather 'hard to market' where the in the market the word intercooler = $200 in most peoples minds.

The microtech probably has the option in there. Have a squiz at the manual for it /software.

HA HA HA ! Good one Read my review of the china hard pipe kit for more comedy

Sure 400rwkw is alot of power. But, put a good intercooler on and you make 430rwkw with better response. It's like comparing ebay turbos to garrett's. They make peak power but, do it the hard way. I've seen a reputable 'china core' swapped for a slightly smaller custom ARE with no other changes and from memory it made 60rwhp more on a race car. No other changes. China intercoolers are poo and only look good next to something really crap or undersized like a stock core thats run out of legs for the job.

The JJR one is from reports ok for a china kit. Run away from the china "trust lookalike". They are trouble.

ARE will custom build an intercooler around your requirements. They constantly flow test thier designs and they incorporate baffled end tank designs to maximise airflow. No off the shelfers are as good. ARC are the best 'off the shelf' intercoolers but, the bee's knees are custom ARE.

Volk GTP's 17x9.5 on my gtr are lighter compared to the stock 16x7 r33 gtst rims with stock tyres. The GTP's are among the lightest of the forged rims.

I think the bolt issue encountered may have been over tightening. Does the kit specify a torque setting?

Interesting argument in here.... Here's my 2c because ,well... it's a forum I think everyone agree's that the powerFC is a top little ecu. It might also be argued that it's cheaper than the Vipec thing to buy and do the initial tune on if you don't need more AFM flow. I've had a few of the PowerFc's and I think they are ok. However. I'm not a fan of the tuning clunk of the power FC. I had a stinger EMS (nothing special) inbetween drinks so to speak with skyline and powerFC ownership and from a tune point of view it's faster and therefore less costly (if you don't do it yourself). The datalogit looks like it came from a foriegn language. You can do anything you like but, really slowly. My idea of an ecu tune is something that addresses the whole shooting match in the same way as the factory tune does. The powerFC now falls behind on road tune abillity too. Road tunes are important for accurate load adjustments. Newer ecu's that have wideband plugins offer a very welcome functionality. Having been in a number of PowerFC equiped GTR's I can certainly tell when they have had the 2hr special 'power tune', they are dull compared to the tunes I put in mine purely because I have more hours spent on them. Looking at the prices the Vipec is good value. Selling the power FC = $1200 plus saving $600 for AFM's Thats $1800 to play with. Provided you had a tuner who knows the ecu. The Vipec is going to be giving you a sharp responsive car for less tune time and less money. Not to mention the other features you can play with when you are bored. The interface is also something that lets you begin to understand what the tune is and offers you a starting point to get into self tuning the powerFC doesn't make easy.

sorry to hear. next time don't speed up. It's a very very bad tactic and not at all safe. Instead pull over and let an idiot pass if they do that

You are misinterpreting the info you are reading perhaps. Largely this is because there isn't alot of drag racing focus on this forum community, only when naming a hero. I use the term : BOLT ON BOYS. The V8 scene is as bad or worse. I have seen money thrown at setups that ran slow on all manner of vehicle. Mostly because some person says " I want X rwkw " not " I want X time over the 1/4 mile" Dyno sheets are just toilet paper in importance when you rock up at the track and start making excuses. If I had a dollar........ Starting at the top. 2rismo. He is afterall a dirty cheating filthy ricer. You want to run quick times at the drags but, want a stock road car with lovely manners? Nitrous is your friend. I told him this and he believed me. I've had a play with this on small and big block V8's as well as just a little tinker with the old gtst. The principle is the same. Massive gains / low cost / stock road manners standard. It's cheaper short and long term. Taking the kit out when going back to the road is no hassle takes very little time. Afterall only a cock is going to drive with full power around public roads. Most of these " but, I want power on call..." people never go to a real race track because they are too busy giving all of us a bad name and increasing our insurance premiums. Then people say " but , I want a circuit car blah blah blah...." Again, there are a number who will never ever get to a circuit day and if they did would be crapping on about how they have x rwkw , suspension brand and brakes and 'should' run such and such time....... what about the 'expensive cost' ? I only hear arguements from people who have never owned one. They always last longer than you expect and the power hits you get leave you with a great sense of 'value'. A 10lb bottle costs about $100 to fill and it lasts 100 seconds at approx 100HP shot jetting. Thats a very long time when you consider it is only counting down at 100% throttle. I sold 2rismo my old nitrous kit and he ran 11's with a stock turbo with it. Only hundreds of dollars worth of second hand nitrous kit. He ran 12's with the stock turbo too no gas. If you do it right ( I can do this to any healthy stock R33 gtst), you can run low 13's / high 12's with a stock intercooler, stock rims , stock tyres, S-afc, exhaust & pineapples. That would be about 170-ish rwkw in my books. This would be about 106mph and an even a crap 60ft to boot, so if you can drive and afford bigger than 205/55/16 cheap tyres you can get easily into 12's. Does this sound reasonable? Lets agree that this thread is total crap and worthy of the wasteland......although it's not funny. Mods? to the wasteland?

this is a stupid thread like all Vs threads tend to be. Look, the power delivery argument is very weak MBS206 as is a big pile of skyline fan garbage in this thread you have responded to. I'm not taking a side here. Drag racing setups and time predictions have more to it than shoving some dyno numbers under your nose. I have done a little tiny bit of drag racing with V8's , rotors and and to much lesser extent these nissan things. It's all good fun. What I notice is there are an equal number of people quoting dyno numbers in any 'brigade' who can't turn them into track times. The funny thing is that more often than not the guys really into drag racing may not be able to tell you 'exactly' what power their engine makes. I know a mate back in the day who must have rolled his eyes so much at the question " so how much power are you making " that now he can't look straight. I reckon if you survey drag racing teams for the most boring question they always get that would be up there. The carry on is the same with fan boi's in the V8 arena at the track since time began. Garbage sprouted about ford / chev / hemi V8's power delivery meaning blah blah blah.... The people at the track crapping on about that are in love with thier own voice not drag racing. They are usually people who have never lifted a spanner in thier life and want to prove some sort of point about a brand. If you asked me how much power I needed from an Rb26 to get into 10's in an R32 , I could say " less power than the LS powered 1800kg commo " and be totally right. At a guess I would say 300rwkw or a little less might do the trick. I would estimate by comparison I will need another 40 - 50 rwkw at least in the 1800kg wagon. But, the problem is I don't care what the power is. I may not even know or remember once I am running 10's. I will not care if I break the 300rwkw number to get there if it serves the purpose of doing the time and feeling the thrill.And you can bet your bottom dollar I'll want to go faster. they have some good dyno comparisons here; www.realultimatepower.net

Best local intercoolers for my 2c In fact the guys there make things to match the application. Not 'bolt on boy' style. Their products are second to none. www.are.com.au I had one made for my old gtr, similar size to stock. However it out performed it both in power and response.

VS threads rock !!!! check out the review of these cars here; www.realultimatepower.net

turbo back exhaust Profec B 1bar (a little more boost than is good for the turbo just for the drags) Bosch 044 in tank fuel pump remapped ecu 9 puck clutch Cold air partitioned air filter (metal pipe turbo intake) Full suspension kit setup with pineapples, revalved Tien's and camber /castor setup for traction Decent width 245 rear tyres with some air let out.

another bloke over here has got a 12.9 out of one as well.