daydreamer

thermo wrap definitly works , it works too well ,in racing cars we have used it on the extractors only last 12 months at best , and exhaust shops round here dont offer any waranty on systems if it is used ,i think it works by creating a buffer of hot air around the out side of the pipe which decreases the amount of temp lost to the engine bay . To me the flange is creating a restriction before entering a larger pipe which will by nature increase the temp substantually on the right hand side of pic so before i can draw any conclusions i would like to see a before pic . Djr81 you may be correct but with the evidence before us it is unconclusive. Just my 2 cents . interesting discusion ,thanks.

mate each to there own , i feel the ram pod style is the best from experience, just everybody was complaining about water problems,there is a deflector on it to reduce the problem ,a little bit of water cant hurt a motor ,but if you go through a creek .....

mate i believe you as i have personaly seen a gtr put out 800 rwhp on standard rods and has been running for a few months now ,not sure how many times maxed out on street as not many places you can run that sort of power !!!!

if you look closely the front mount air cleaner has a perspex plate in front of it with holes in it and spaced out from air cleaner , i dont think water would be a problem , water injection anybody ? cooling possibly a problem ,depending how close mounted to radiator .