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Both mine. The GTR is the 91 Bathurst winner. Shortly to undergo change to those colours. The photo is a bit small but that is Fred Gibson with the GTR

and this

A couple of teasers

Thanks for you reply Jetwreck. I didn't think you meant any harm with the comment but I thought I needed to correct it because continued comment tends to create its own truth. I know the person that is probably spreading the rumours in the first place. Unfortunately they do not have the courage to speak to me face to face. On another note is the new Nissan Group A face the son of a famous touring car driver in an HR31. After a long wait the Murray Carter DR30 is back from the panel/paint shop now in beautiful black. Won't be long before it is finished. First outing probably Phillip Island historic

Jetwreck you are wrong about the BMW M3 driven by Seton. It is not a DTM spec car. Please tell me what is DTM spec about it and not Group A. The car has never run in the DTM and has never been DTM spec. It has always run Group A. Its history is : Built by Schnitzer BMW in 1989 to race in the Italian Group A Touring Car Championship (CIVT). Driven regularly by Pirro. Winner of the 1989 Wellington 500 Group A race. (Pirro and Ravaglia) Sold to Charles Kwan of Hong Kong in 1990. 1990 Macau GP Guia race, Group A (Kwan) 1991 Macau GP Guia race, Group A clas (Kwan) 1991 Macau GP Macau Cup race Group A (Kwan) 1992 Macau GP Guia race, Group A class (Kwan) 1992 Macau GP Macau Cup race, Group A , winner, (Kwan) 1993 Macau GP Macau Cup race, Group A, winner (Kwan) SE Asia continued Group A into 1993. Japanese Group A TCC In 1991 and 1992 Kwan raced the car in Sport Evo spec with 2.5l engine and aero pack as homologated for Group A. The car has had since 2001 a Group A FIA Historic Technical Passport I have verified this history by speaking with Charles Lamm of Schnitzer and Charles Kwan. I have travelled to Hong Kong and Macau to specifically research the history of the car. The car is in the same spec now as 1991 and 1992 except that it now has Speedline wheels which were available in 1992 and used in touring car racing in 1992. I have had the car inspected twice by CAMS eligibility officers, the second time because of uninformed gossip . Frank Lowndes has looked at the specs in detail. Apart from the paint scheme I have not changed one single thing on the car since Dubois debuted it at Muscle Car Masters in September 2008 and Seton first drove it at Phillip Island in March 2009. It is the same now as it was then. It has the Sport Evo Aero pack and 2.5 l engine as it ran with in Group A in 91 and 92. It is now in its 92 Macau GP colour scheme. It has not been banned nor is about to be. After the second recent CAMS inspection it has been granted a Group A Certificate of Description and historic Group A logbook. The car will be at MCM in September 2010, again driven by Seton. Unfortunately uninformed comments unfairly reflect on both the car and owner...me.

That probably good enough gtrtech, I assume it does not have the round "Stack" gauge on the left hand side of the dash behind the steering column

gtrtech do you have a photo of the dash of the Fox car, behind the steering wheel

I believe it is the No. 1 car, the car that won Bathurst in 1991

Perfect gtrtech. Roy I will check out their website if they have one Thanks boys

There sure has been a lot of speculation about chassis #1 and #2, understandably so given the elapse of time. Gavin chassis #1 was the car destroyed by Skaife at the 1990 AGP. That was reported at the time and can be proved by way of photos. I have the the car that went to Thailand. It has chassis plate #2 on it. Fred Gibson has seen photos of the car and ID'ed it as a GMS car. I have the paperwork showing it was chassis #2 that went to Thailand. There is no doubt GMS sent its people to Asia to maintain the car and crew the team during some races. In fact there was an initial agreement that no one else was to work on the car (that is the mechanical/ engineering part ). I have some of the paperwork in relation to that. I will be in a position shortly to set out the car's full Australian race history and results which I think are stunning. I just have a number of photos to source and results to collate. There will be a good argument as to whether it is the most successful Australian Group A car. Does anyone have a photo of the rear window of the Fox car as it is now. If you could post that it would be helpful

V-SPEC-33, Any chance you or other members might have any shots of the rear window area of the Fox car as it is in the museum. Before anyone asks I am most embarrassed to say that the GMS doco is going nowhere, but it is not forgotten.

The doco is coming along very slowly. Unfortunately work intervenes. Material is still being collected The Group A car will be restored to the '91 livery and its rebuild will be in the doco. Fred Gibson wants to see the car. Hopefully that will be in March. The plan has been to let him see it before restoration and get that on the video also. The previous owner of the car thought it was the Bathurst winner. Another forum refers to Issue 3 of Motor Racing Australia where a journalist asks Gibbo why he sold the Bathurst winning the car overseas. He said something like " it was just a car" Others say the R32 in the Fox collection is the '91 Bathurst winning car How do you prove it one way or another?

yep got that one thanks

Some more photos Asian TCC Spare GMS engine

Sure is Ah GTR32G I can only say it cost a motza, sorry I can't be more forthcoming Thanks I look forward to seeing those pictures. I will give Gavin a call Can you pm me his number if you have it I have the The Great Race videos. If they aren't the same would you mind digging it up Does anyone have the full TV telecast of the 90,91 and 92 Bathurst 1000 races. Any chance of getting a copy or where can I find copies I have spoken to Terry Ashwood and next job is to give him a call and arrange to go and see his R32 and talk to him about the history Nice bloke Jetwreck I will sort out those piccies tonight I have spoken to Fred Gibson He is going to have a look at the car when it arrives and I'll get some good history then. I think I will include the restoration of the car in the doco. One problem is what year do I restore it to The colours at the moment are Winfield red/white as it was in 92 and as run by the previous owner in the Asian TCC So if I kept those colours I would not respray but keep the original patina inside and out Then again in the 90 or 91 Nissan colours it ran without restriction. In the 92 Winfield colours it would have to have weight and turbo restrictions and would be down a fair bit on the power that made it Godzilla Any comments guys Thanks for the help so far

More photos

Thanks. It looks like the same history as on the Godzilla.com site but I'll go through it carefully and compare. Any photos out there?

Yes Roy it is undergoing very very slow restoration

Thanks Duncan Please keep the help coming guys

I intend to make an amateur doco on the Gibson Motorsport Group A R32 Skylines If anyone has any stories, anecdotes, gossip, histories, photos of the cars or team both on or off the track or home videos I would be grateful if you could email them to me or post them up here. I already have the story from the Godzilla site, the 1990 Wheels article and seen the photos on the Chris Wilson thread . The interest was sparked by this car coming back to Oz

Roy the Sierra is the #10 Eggenberger Moffat Sierra that ran only 4 races in its career - Bathurst 89 to 92 The NetComm DR30 is slowly being restored

Roy thats right. Bill O'Brien of Everlast Battery Service and later Everlast Automotive Service (entrant) Born 30.9.42 First race at Bathurst 1977 then Bathurst: 1979 Falcon GT with Ray Winter 1980 Falcon with Bob Morris 1981 Falcon with Gary Cooke 1982 Falcon with Gary Cooke 1983 Falcon with Brian Sampson 1984 Falcon with Gary Cooke 1985 Mustang with Laurie Nelson 1986 Nissan Skyline with Murray Carter 1987 Commodore VL with Brian Sampson 1988 Commodore VL with Sampson 1989 Commodore VL with Sampson 1990 Commodore VL with Sampson I'm not sure what his Bathurst history was after 1990. He didn't seem to race in the ATCC for those Bathurst years as far as I can see though I might be wrong. Gricey would have called him a once a year Bathurst road warrior ( or something less flattering) but O'Brien always performed very credibly By the way what has happened to the Baigent/Bowkett DR30 from Bathurst 1986

I mean this one

Also got this pic from 86 Bathurst

Already got the first pic but not the one from the rear. That one is xlent Thanks