This is Jack, 20yo and less than 18 months TOTAL training time.
170kg bench press
245kg squat
250kg deadlift
When he started training he wieghed 110kg, he now weighs 150kg. body BUILDING.
His progress and training is documented in his training log - http://prorawpowerlifting.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=training&action=display&thread=20
He's built more muscle in the space of 18months than this whole forum put together, wasn't from doing cable flys....
I just find it really interesting that so many people on here have no interest in getting stronger along the road to improving their physique, it's like saying you're going to clean up the oil mess from leaking gaskets in your car but not going to change them while you're at it.
Most of you think I only lift to get strong, couldn't be further from the truth. I want to get bigger and have an awesome physique. To do this it requires lots of eating, sleeping, and time spent lifting weights. What do you think stimulates more growth, 20kg dumbbell curls or squatting 300 pounds for reps?