cheers mate, i've already taken the trim off and checked out the relay. Hooked it up without it in the little black box and can see it clicking away. So that seems kosher. Just need to know how the heck do i get the motor out? lol So many screws and do dads to yank at. Was'nt this complicated on my old 31 haha Dont wory, gentle is my middle name, actually its my last