This thread is GOLD! I have been reading these forums for some time now but this single thread takes the biscuit! No matter what STREET car forums you visit (especially the one-make forums), there's always those who talk it up, especially those who "had the fastest/most powerful/best handling" car but sold it. It's a bit like the adage, "the older I get, the faster I was".
Anyway, the opportunity exists for all those who want to put their money where their mouth is and prove themselves and there'll be more info on this in the near future. Nonetheless, I expect to see none of the defesive and outspoken people ever front one of these events... they rearely if ever do.
There have been other events on Gyndier Road and there are others plannned for next year that will also use it. I'm surprised that Nismo_Boy, who claims to have his finger on the pulse, doesn't know about these other events.
BTW: Events are easy to organise... if you have some credibility to start with! Public liability is painful but what do you think CAMS is for? Yes, they are the governing body of *most* four-wheeled motorsport in Australia but they are also a huge insurance broker for the aforementioned motorsport. I have directed events in south east Queensland over the past six years that have used both public and private roads and have never struck a problem with the insurance side of things. A properly organised and CAMS sanctioned event carries $100,000,000 in public liability cover and the owners of venues or the local authorities are generally very happy once they view the documents pertaining to the safety plan and insurance. The only hurdle then is the local residents and, frankly, I would not like a closed-road event tearing past my driveway, thanks all the same. Those who get to compete in the various closed-road special stage events around the country should be very greatful to the residents who put up with these events tearing past their doors.
Of course the cost is passed directly on to the competitor by way of the ever-increasing entry fees but that's the price you pay for a safe and legal environment, instead of tearing up a public road, endangerring not your own life but the lives of others. If I were a Gyndier Road resident, I'd be throwing bricks through windscreens of idiots tearing up the hill outside the legitimate events.
85URK... you are right, there is a distinct lack of proper events but I'll wager there are many more than you are even aware of. What about the Coastal Challenge that has been run every year since 2000 (and has used the Gyndier Road hillclimb)? How about the Queensland Challenge that has been running effectively since 2001? These events are the sort of events where any road-legal car, with minimum safety equipment, can enter. The problem is it's all word of mouth and if you are not a member of a proper sporting car club, you'll never hear about them. Are you aware of other car clubs in your area who are actively organising events? I sure am!
And guys, for pity sake!!!... sideways is NEVER the fastest way around a corner that you can actually get traction on! Comments like that expose your complete lack of understanding of vehicle dynamics. There are NO corners on Gyndier Drive that can be made faster by "sliding around" as, and I really hope you can stay with me on this one, as soon as power transmitting tyres break traction, you slow down. The FASTEST way around a corner is to drive to the point of breaking traction but not over-stepping that point. Of course you get no style points for that but you are faster.
Finally, to dismiss Mr hrd-hr30's comments about track comparisons is to prove a total lack of understanding of motor racing but who am I to argue with the wisdom of a couple of street racers?
PS: Turbo Tim, Mt Stuart looks AWESOME! I would love to get up there one day!
