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Im going to ask again, seeing as my question was either ignored or unseen. When was the last time something like this has happened in F1. And what was it for.

lol, no sooner had i made the argument, Planet F1 releases this. Click http://planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_4116127,00.html

W T F ? So all the blame for this f**ked up mess, you put squarely on LH's shoulders??? Faaaark. Youre right - youre hatred for him IS clouding your better senses...

How on earth you think drivers are consciously aware of "testing the rules" is beyond me. You could clearly see they were just both going at it hammer and tong!!! Thats what its all about and i dont think KR gave a shit - he lost to LH that day and LH just drove better. Even the ice man would admit it. No driver wants to win like that but who on the face of the earth would want to lose like LH has?? The best race of the year f**king destroyed by what is AT BEST a subjective and lineball call. Ill say it again "The Punishment DID NOT fit the crime." Look at it again Roy. Watch the tape and watch it frame by frame.

And thats where ill let the dead dog that is F1 lay...until it all sparks up again in Monza this weekend. Unfortunately for all of us, its 40% racing and 60% bullshit politics.

F1 fans, Roy, the fans - do not like it one bit. YOu have got it so wrong its not funny. This is not about Hamilton. This is not about KR...or Ferrari or Mac. The bigger picture screams farce and the FIA again is in hot water. Its about the sport Roy - the reason we have stoushes, the integrity. They have f**ked the sports reputation for the 30th thime this year. The poor drivers are copping the blame - and they should not even be the focus of this argument now. The moderation of the sport is batshit and needs a thorough hosing.

I read that one of the 3 people who made the call to strip Hammo was a Kenyan, lol. Forgive me, but since when did Kenya have anything remotely related to modern day f1 racing? It is clear to me the best thing to do is clean house, boot the stewards that have little or no relevance to F1 and appoint a resident official with people appointed by him who adjudicates at all the GP - people who DO have F1 backgrounds...not mixing and matching like they currently do, changing the officials from GP to GP. Its never going to work this way. Its a complete joke as it is. Fark changing and adding rules. Change the bloody stewards and get people in there who know racing and arent just some muppet with almost zero motorsporting experience. Here is said Kenyan's Surinder Thatthi's motorsport profile. http://www.rallye-info.com/driverprofile.asp?driver=655 Hardly compelling or worthy to judge the best drivers in the world, wouldnt you say? AND he wasnt even the driver!

Ah man...what the fallout from all this bullshit is gonna be is anyones guess... I disagree with Wolvie and Dunc when they said Mac would get it back... Its all too farked up now...

lol ( and no i dont have anything more constructive to say to that )

lol, since when has agreeing with me been a bad thing!?? Like im always wrong or something?>>

And as you can all see, F1 really gets me revved up...in every way.

Nah im cool and i know what you were trying to say... Im still shaking my head at the way the governing body has just slapped all of us in the face and shot the sport in the foot...

How do you explain Massa and the pitstop or KR and the farking farce of him running around spewing parts all over the place for half the race? Not a meatball or fine in sight. I swear the FIA turns a blind eye to ferrari when they f**k up and put Mac under the grill when they do. Am i seriously the only guy on here who see it that way?

Give it to Kimi!?? Yeah, NISMO, give it to a guy who overtook 2 cars under yellow, was out of control crazy in the last 4 laps, a danger to himself and others, a guy who not only that but also cut la source blatantly and kept the advantage. FFS you guys look at what else was going on at the time!!

Farkin spot on moot. Couldntve said it better myself. Its the freaking "rules" that are the argument for too many and everybody knows there are too many damned rules! What pisses me off the most is that the FIA havent even had the temerity or the balls or both to even farking explain why they did it and show the bloody proof. Those farking muppets just said " Infraction - cutting chicane - strip him of the win. End of story." "Proof? Oh...dont forget were the FIA - we dont have to prove anything to you and we can manipulate things the way we see fit. Understand?" And who of any of you would claim that to be fair, just, right and in the best interests of the sport? FFS!

Come off it Richard. You cant seriously think im the only one who thinks Hamilton got the shaft? You can view it any way you want. Bottom line for me is this. 1. He did not deserve to have the win stripped from him. It was ungraceful, undignifying and an insult to the sport. 2. For the sake of the bullshit consistency that the FIA employs when meting out punishment, they should have given LH a fine at the maximum. The punishment DID NOT fit the crime - or did you just choose to ignore that Richo? Do NOT forget, DC in 6 races smashing other people at will and not a SINGLE penalty. Dont forget KR flying out of the tunnel all kinds of shit crossed up and taking out a hapless and rightfully indignant AS. That's racing you say? Is it? Yeah well you can shove it coz i say what happened last night at the chicane was also "racing". Do not forget Massa getting a fine, ffs, for what was blatantly a dangerous and potentially life threatening situation with 2 cars side by side in the pits - at speed limit mind you - and Massa as the dick of the year when he said " He should have slowed down and let me through, blah blah blah - Im the leader, blergh blah." Wanker. If that wasnt enough to warrant the stewards to act on his own admission of guilt and arrogance then i dont know what is. Outcome? - f**king chump change. Youve all seen so many dodgy f**king decisions here this year consistently involving, lo and behold, Mac of all teams and all you can do is ride the coat tails of the FIA manuscript. Im gonna hurl, seriously. Im defending the sport, ffs.

Got anything more constructive to add other than "lol"?

And Roy, i completely and 100% agree with the penalty in France. I do not and never will with this one. LH clearly made a strong effort to relinquish his advantage and passed him right at the end of the straight. KR was almost out of control and you could see he didnt know what to do with himself...probably fumbling with the Vodka tumbler

Nah, only a few throwing knives...

I would be feeling the same way if it happened to any of the drivers..unfortunately its a Mac and LH in it again. We all agree it was a bullshit call and we all know how this looks to us fans - that cant be ignored... Im still studying that tape and cmon Roy, it was so marginal and subjective there is no way the penalty was appropriate. Sure, LH may have, marginally at best, made an indiscretion. In this case im sure you agree, the punishment definitely did NOT fit the crime.

Dont be a knob. You know that they will never disclose it. Its like knowing the US was after oil all along and there were no weapons of mass destruction! Gee, wow,....that was a hard one to figure out and look at all the shit it put us in. You need proof of that, too?

Yeah man, Kimi passed the "homo" by CUTTING A CORNER! Spose you didnt see that either? Geez. Where is the argument? They stripped a win from a driver when the guy in second crashed. Who really gives a shit? KR lost it into the wall and Hammo kept it going!

Youve got to be kidding>? Like every man and his dog cant see that as plain as day, lol. Get real man...

Argh, ffs Roy and marco Lewis DID NOT gain an advantage. ffs! How the hell is going over painted white lines and dirty rubber marbles an advantage as opposed to being on the drying racing line????? He was the same distance behind KR after the start finish line as he was when they went into the bustop!!!! He didnt back off? Are you serious? Was Kimis car in front of Lewis after the chicane by the same distance as before? A) YES? Then Lewis backed off B) NO? Then go back and look at the video again. Pause it if you will at the moments in question. Then come back and answer option A. Bloody hell some of you are blind. So... 1.LH was outside into the busstop. AHEAD on the outside. 2.KR brakes deeper and get a little squirrely. 3.LH sticks to the outside line which is perfectly fine. 4.KR tries to muscle LH over. Succeeds in being dirty. 5.LH takes evasive action because there is NO other choice. 6.LH cut the chicane. 7.LH GIVES THE POSITION BACK IMMEDIATELY and is trailing KR into turn one. 8.LH has telemitary to back the speed difference up. 9.The gap going into the busstop and coming across the start finish line is exactly the same. 10.LH outbrakes a frantic KR into turn 1. 11.GAME OVA. oh no wait... 12. LH has win stripped from him and Massa walks away short a little pocket money. Where the f**k is the penalty here and the justification to strip a WDC leader of 10 points, award his main rival 2 extra and reduce what would have been an 8 point advantage into 2 point advantage??? You tell me for the sake of argument.