Firstly thanks everyone for your advice spent the whole day looking at skylines, test drove one, was impressed, ive read Merli's what to look for, but just want to confirm the build plate, According to his post the Nissan Blue Build plate should be printed (i.e. smooth) not engraved, otherwise it is considered re-birthed, is this true for all R33 series I & II? i mainly looked at series II and from memory all of them were not smooth, i had a look at three series I and found only one to be smooth.