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nice shots Sam!

Figured as much, sadly grammar hasn't always been my strong point. Might get someone with a bit more expertise in the matter to look it over. Thanks CeJay!

Hey i'll definitely check this out can i request you don't play it until i get home from work though? That'd be greatly appreciated

also spotted a red R34 GTT at BP servo on Windsor Rd yesterday arvo..anyone on here? Was pumpin Snoop from the speakers.. i was the guy staring at your car lol

just spotted FYN350 (i think) on showground rd..was a black V35

Hey mate, I completely respect your opinion, and yes at times it can be difficult to justify modifying cars as a hobby. But for the people who live, breathe, eat, and sh*t modding, we need to feel that we are at least respected a little bit by the community, and not constantly frowned upon for our choice of hobby.

spotted a black AMG C63 in norwest on Xmas Eve..looked hot!

um...to be quite honest mate i can't remember. I'm sure i was stopped at some lights and you drove past but can't for the life of me remember where i was

Merry christmas all! Take it easy!!

HOLY CRAP!!!! You ok mate? What happened????

Hey Guys, This is the new edited article, i hope i haven't missed anything: It’s no secret to society that owners of modified cars are seen in a dim light. It’s no secret that there are modified car owners out there who do provoke this view, and deserve to be seen in this light. However, the majority of modified car owners are just normal, everyday people, who just pursue a hobby they love. I do agree with society that there are some bad apples among our community that don’t driving responsibly, or safely on our roads, and perform illegal tasks such as street racing or drifting on our public roads, and this is what is made visible to the world, and in turn creates bad publicity for the entire modified car world. However, there is a side of the modified car scene that is not commonly shown. Most Hot Rods are highly modified, including modifications to the chassis, and general frame the vehicle, which can sometimes affect the safety aspects of the vehicle, however the feeling that these vehicles provoke is one of euphoria (as most “Hot Rods” are vintage vehicles). Most modified vehicles (mainly focusing on Japanese import vehicles) are modified in a way that improves handling, braking, and general performance of the vehicle, yet due to the generalization of “young hoons” are frowned upon. There are many dedicated car clubs who continually hold community events to help raise money for certain charities. In 2009 alone, there have been multiple charities donated too, some of which include the Jane McGrath Foundation, The Salvation Army etc. While they every donation may not bring in thousands of dollars, every little bit counts, and everyone is always willing to try and raise as much money as possible for the charities being supported. There are also annual events which take people take part in, whether it is to support a certain cause such as the Bracehearts event in Queensland, or if its held in memory of those who are unfortunately no longer with us, and support the cause of Youth Suicide, such as the Ben Simpson Memorial Cruise held in South Australia. The amount of revenue that is produced from keen motorsport enthusiasts for state governments is phenomenal. There is a high amount of Club/Forum affiliated track days that are constantly being organized, with the days nearly always being booked out, obviously raising funds for motorsport tracks, and state governments. For enthusiasts to be able to attend these track days (whether they are circuit days, or drift days) – spare parts are needed. These include things like tyres; spare engine parts, all engine fluids. These all have to be purchased from somewhere, whether it be a retail chain such as SuperCheap Auto, or a specific high performance aftermarket store such as Just Jap, all money spent assists these stores, and provides huge waves of cash flow into the economy. Also the education that comes from things such as Defensive driving days is of infinite times more value, than the amount spent on attending the day. These days allow you to learn the limitations of your car, you can improve your reaction speeds, and you can learn how to handle your car in the safest possible way. The affect this has when doing normal, everyday driving is extraordinary. Most modified car owners love driving, and love finding ways to better their skills and make them safer drivers. Days such as defensive driver days, drift days, and even track days allow the drivers to learn the limitations of their vehicle, and know what both themselves, and the vehicle are capable of. Modifying cars is the same as any other hobby. Some people go mountain biking, some go bird spotting, others ride motorbikes. It's human nature to find something of interest, and pursue it. So why should people who like to build and modify cars be looked at differently because of the hobby they pursue. We are just the same as everyone else. We could be the polite person on the end of the phone who has helped you resolve a complaint, we could be the bank teller that has helped you with your transactions, we could be the architect that designed your house. We are ‘ENTHUSIASTS’. We share a common interest and enjoy building something that gives us as much self-satisfaction as the next person who has an interest in model planes

oh i just read the "community events" part..i missed that yesterday..i like it

um...it doesn't look any different apart from you added Salvation Army, and changed the end bit to "hard earned cash"???

work for you guys??? These all have to be purchased from somewhere, whether it be a retail chain such as SuperCheap Auto, or a specific high performance aftermarket store such as Just Jap, all money spent assists these stores, and allows them to keep trading. Also the education that comes from these days is of infinite times more value, than the amount spent on attending the day. These days allow you to learn the limitations of your car, you can improve your reaction speeds, you can learn how to handle your car in the safest possible way. The affect this has when doing normal, everyday driving is extraordinary also i've added (not entirely sure on this though): Modifying cars is the same as any other hobby. Some people collect model planes, some go bird spotting, we build and modify cars. Its who we are. In our day to day dealings though we are just the same as everyone else. We could be the polite person on the end of the phone who has helped you resolve a complaint, we could be the bank teller that has helped you with your transactions, we could be the architect that designed your house. We are all just normal people, its just that we enjoy something that most dont consider normal

that is absolutley nuts!!!

wrong answer. B4s were produced in 02-04. Any turbo liberty after that is classified as a GT (unless it's twin turbo) - however all aus spec ones are GT it may be just because i work for Subaru, but it sh*ts me when ppl call all turbo libertys B4s..they're not!

This is a start, while it may not be perfect, at least the ball is now rolling (if anyone wants to offer some professional editorial advice, please do so) It’s no secret to society that owners of modified cars are seen in a dim light. It’s no secret that there are modified car owners out there who do provoke this view, and deserve to be seen in this light. However, the majority of modified car owners are just normal, everyday people, who just pursue a hobby they love. I do agree with society that there are some bad apples among our community who try to ruin it for the rest of us, by not driving responsibly, or safely on our roads, and perform illegal tasks such as street racing or drifting on our public roads, and this is what is made visible to the world. However, there is a side of the modified car scene that, while is just as visible to the public, isn’t made as accessible as the media choose to ignore it. There are many dedicated car clubs who continually hold charity cruises to help raise money for certain charities. In 2009 alone, there have been multiple charities donated too, some of which include the Jane McGrath Foundation insert more charities. While they may not be major donations in the thousands of dollars (sometimes they can be), every little bit counts, and everyone is always keen to try and raise as much money as possible for the charities being supported. The amount of revenue that is produced from keen motorsport enthusiasts for state governments is phenomenal. There is a high amount of Club/Forum affiliated track days that are constantly being organized, with the days nearly always being booked out, obviously raising funds for motorsport tracks, and state governments. For enthusiasts to be able to attend these track days (whether they are circuit days, or drift days) – spare parts are needed. These include things like tyres, brake fluid, spare engine parts, all engine fluids. These all have to be purchased from somewhere, whether it be a retail chain such as SuperCheap Auto, or a specific high performance aftermarket store such as Just Jap, all money spent assists these stores, and allows them to keep trading.

Can anyone give me examples of Charities that have been supported this year, or have received donations through SAU (whether from cruises or directly)? I can only think of the Jane McGrath foundation

oh spotted Aron XR34XX -i can't even remember your plate..Kujotk knows who i mean...can't even remember where i spotted you lol also spotted a white 35 in norwest yesterday about 5

No mate don't apologise, please, i insist. The last thing anyone should be doing here is apologising for being pessimistic regarding the issue. I mean, we've all been there, we all know how the media sees us, we all know how the world sees us. There's no denying that. And i know that there's no denying that this article (IF run), will do f*ck all. I just want to try

I know it's not bayside blue...but come on!!!! Nur

love that sort of style GT-R. Good luck with it Chris!

spotted an R33 GT-R in bathurst on the weekend...any one on here? spotted my cousin (as usual) in his R34 GT-T as well

^^ agreed

I know what you mean mate. We've got 2 rotties While it's not necessarily the same thing as pitbulls (the media seems to portray them in a much more negative way), rotties don't exactly have a squeaky clean history. While i know the possibility of this actually changing anything, or maybe even getting run are slim to none. This is something i want to do. I want to know that i have done something to at least try and improve the way people view modified car lovers... It's a small step in a long journey