You know what i find some members in this thread hilarious they say how can we be so single minded have you ever talked to a holden fan seriously jap crap this turbos are shit that and to get them to admit a gtr thumping out 1000 horses out of 2.6, 2.8, 3.0 whatever is an awesome effort all you get is thats crap they'd be nothing without the turbos, wankers.
They also dont seem to get that a car doesnt have to be fast to enjoy,best bogan voice....has to be a v8 has to be over 5 litres or else its slow and crap, tools.
I agree that holdens are very quick their good value for money for what you get ...performance wise
they have awesome tuneability ive seen in a holden mag at work cam and tune packages low 12's on a relatively stock engine fair effort i will give credit where its due
But my point has been long winded but it is coming if they want to be single minded fine thats cool but i can gaurantee that in a holden site twin cam crap 2.5 litre shit whats good for them is good for us
and if you love holdens so much go to their forum
oh buy a holden and walk into a world of depreciation
sorry if ive offended it wasnt my intention