neil_se

i don't know who your supplier is but i think i could fly to japan and pick myself up one for less than that. nengun had jap brand kits for under $1300 delivered.

more pics: door, turbo, diff

MM2death: I took some pics and lightened them up for you to see the damage. the right side is slightly bent down, corner of the left side bent up and some scratches down the back.

rear brakes SOLD

PMed you with my lowest price Bl4cK32

$320 and its a deal.

180sx_dogg: cheers mate. car isn't actually going yet, mechanics keep stuffing up the electrics. need to get another auto elec to look at it but i haven't even got enough money for the towing. Xzibot: PM replied beario: i'm afraid postage would be almost as much as the coilovers themselves and i don't have time to arrange it. More items added. JAMS coilovers NAVAN steering wheel

I have these parts that are just sitting around doing nothing. Prices are ONO. Will add more parts as i remember them. R32 Stock turbo. Minimal shaft play. 60k $320 R32 Silvertop manual ecu $150 SOLD JAMS coilovers $175 SOLD Clutch master cylinder (off sr20det) $50 R32 4.3 LSD Diff centre $230 SOLD s13 Radiator $60 s13 stock intercooler $40 R32 GTST discs and calipers (hubs also avail if needed) fronts calipers SOLD, rears SOLD R32 rear craddle with some rear suspension arms and 1 driveshaft $offers R32 black passenger door with glass, window motors, etc $120 (Prefer pickup) R32 Slightly damaged boot lid with spoiler. Free with SA donation (Pickup only) NAVAN steering wheel off R32 $40 Stock R32 gtst front pipe $offers R32 Rear seat. Suit retrim for custom interior or clean. $40 and i will give 50% to SA (Pickup only) Will post some pics after work tonight or PM me for more. Also have a lot of smaller bits and pieces so PM me if there's any others you need. cheers Neil

I just put in a new battery and had some other work done on exhaust and intercooler and now nothing works. Stereo, headlights and alarm do, but SAFC, fuel pump, windows, indicators, sun roof, turbotimer, etc don't. Car just cranks but won't fire. I've checked all fuses and as much wiring as i can see and its obviously not the battery, but i can't figure out what the problem is. Any ideas? cheers Neil

yes thats my actual kit. the thermostat is contained in the sandwich block and determines whether oil flows to the cooler or just circulates through the filter.

i'm pretty sure it does....

no worries. in the meantime, bump.

KP Performance are Qld Wolf suppliers, not sure who else specialises.

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I'll give you a kick to the head REASONABLE offers considered.

When it come to issues like this i always say to myself, if you can have an argument this long about it, then there really isn't that bigger difference to begin with since neither option is a clear winner. Makes sense in my head anyway.

I think it was pretty clear from the question that we're talking about 1200-1350kg 180sx and r32s, not a 700kg FWD car. And it sounds like he would rather that was on street tyres as he said it will NOT be a drag car but a daily driver. There's a massive difference in requirements between a 12sec 700kg FWD on slicks and a 1300kg RWD on street tyres.

Yes, but wouldn't the earlier peak torque of the rb aid turbo spooling? Another short note from a post on NS, Danny from JMS's "Pink Bits" project car is making 363rwkw from stock sr20det internals apart from a head gasket. Crazy stuff...

Think about it the other way around, if Nissan can get an extra 18 nm's from tuning an SR (with the same basic configuration) , why shouldn't I be able to get an extra 18 nm's tuning an RB? I don't think Nissan Japan got 18nm more, rather Aus got 18nm less. You'd have to compare both power figures as quoted Jap spec. I quick search i just did found the general consensus on jap-spec figures is 153kw@6000, 274nm@4800 for the red-top s13 sr20det, and 160kw@6400, 263nm@3200 for the silvertop r32 rb20det. Piss all difference i would agree, especially once you start modding. fact the same applies to a CA, if all other things are equal, a CA will produce more horsepower than SR. Maybe if you're talking about a stroked ca, but i fail to see how a ca with the same upgrades as an sr is going to produce more horsepower than an sr that has more displacement, torque, and less lag. A quick eg. 2 mates both have silvias, one with sr and one with ca. Both have stock injectors, upgraded fuel pumps, small fmics, t28bb turbos. The sr makes 171kw@11psi, the ca 165kw@14psi. Hi Neil, there is definitely at least 2 specs of 2530, one with a T3 flange and one with a T28 flange. Note that SR's come with a T28 flange and RB's come with a T3 flange. Consequently I don't see how you can do a meaningful comparison since it would mean using different turbos or an exhaust manifold adaptor. Either way the results will be contaminated by other factors. The flange doesn't change the turbo specs. The 2530 isn't like the 2835 and others that has multiple combinations, all 2530 have the same wheel sizes, 0.64 A/R, etc irrespective of the flange. Therefore i think the results would be be better for comparing the engines rather than comparing stock figures because the rb20det has a t28 sized bb turbo and the sr20det has a smaller t25g giving the rb better power figures to start with.

Yes, afaik the 2530s only came with one available spec.

I've just got a standard ecu at the moment but it won't start because of problems with some of the wiring. I was told i should be able to get an ecu wired in for about $300?

86 (stroke) X 4 (cylinders) / 2 (4 stroke) = 172 69.7 (stroke) X 6 (cylinders) / 2 (4 stroke) = 209 But wouldn't a formula for calculating torque take into account the displacement? Each cylinder is going to exert a smaller force to cause that stroke on an rb because the capacity is divided between 6 cyl instead of 4. Comparing to an RB30 would be way off because you'd have to take that each cylinder is going to be able to exert a much greater force because of the larger displacement. Its just not coming together for me, there's a hole in my thinking which i'm sure you'll point out :slap: The truth is 2 litres is 2 litres, whether it has 6 or 4 cylinders makes far less difference than how it is tuned. And in our case how much airflow and boost it has. Precisely Anyway, i'll have a head-to-head rb20det and sr20det comparison in a few weeks. A mate and I both have 180sx's with hks2530's, 3" dump/front, apexi n1 catbacks, fmic, ebc, upgraded injectors, larger fuel pumps, stock internals, etc and both will be tuned at the same boost (probably by the same person) so i'll put up the torque and power figures for interests sake.

Unless you get seriously into lightweighting, consistent high 11's are 300 rwkw territory. I think that clarifies a lot of the points then. I would suggest Daemos does some lightening, pineapples, suspension, tyres before the major step of upgrading the internals assuming he's on a limited budget like most of us. Standard SR20 rods won't make 300 rwkw I hate it when people use one example to make a point, but a mate's sr20det s13 silvia made 290 odd rwkw on stock internals (read: completely stock, no head gasket, cams, cam gears, pistons) with a TD07 on 20psi. Now makes slightly less with a lot less lag. wouldn't (you) agree that the sr20det has more torque I still stand by this statement. We have the rb vs sr argument too damn often on NS and a number of members including friends of mine have had both sr20det and rb20det silvias/180s. Never once has someone said that their stock or modified rb has had more torque than the sr. To quote _omg: "Torque is how much work an engine exerts on a single revolution. With all else equal a longer stroke engine will have more torque than the shorter one. This is simply because the piston will move downwards on the power stroke longer so it has more opportunity to deliver this work to the crankshaft before it is turned around and heads up on the exhaust stroke." rb stroke = 70mm, sr stroke = 86mm

I think you're talking a little beyond the scope of the question Sydneykid, he's only after low 12's/ high 11's which i would have thought would require between 250-270rwkw. Therefore the sr and rb would not require internals (wouldn't sr internals work out cheaper anyway? 4 of everything cf 6?) or valve train modifications. The cost of the engine itself rb and sr would not matter with my suggestion since an sr20det 180sx and an rb20det r32 will cost about the same. Also, since HP=torque x rpm wouldn't agree that the sr20det has more torque? Factory figures would suggest so, as would every person i've talked to who has owned both. Peak power will occur below the max rpm on both engines so the fact that the rb20det will withstand higher rpms is irrelevant to peak hp? I'm not arguing, i'm genuinely asking.

I think you took my 'same potential' a little too literally. I'm talking generally, eg. a hks 2530, fmic, exhaust, etc on an sr20det and rb20det will both produce around 220-230rwkw. Both stock internals are thought to be reliable to around 250rwkw but can also be tuned to around 300rwkw safely. I haven't seen anyone pull near these figures on an internally stock ca18det.