I had a crack against a commondore the other night, it was fairly even. i'm starting to want to same sort of stick as the skyline, but with the stability of the stagea. i love being a ble to dominate in the wet, but that extra 200kg is really noticable when trying to drag off people. 2nd gear also does it to me, it's a lot taller than the 2nd in the manual skylines, and the pickup in 2nd isn't as good as i'd like it to be