NewKleer

here are the first 62, all assembled. will start contacting people for payment etc probably tomorrow

anyone in sydney on the list who would like to pickup display (from blacktown) on the weekend (if one is ready for you) send me a PM with your mobile/phone number (and optionally your home address) and mention youd like to pickup if its available on weekend, and supply rough time you would be available over weekend.

received the enclosures today! i should get the usb plugs on thursday so ill probably start contacting people for payment on the weekend. need to also write up a brief users guide and webpage for links to software, usb drivers, etc

fyi ive put in an order for the l-com one: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=8134 hopefully get them by wednesday.

no chance good news is they have shipped and i might get them monday! and ive taken mon-wed off work to get some of the final assembly done so hopefully not long now! i did have a look before for grommet, but didnt know what to search for. found a bit more today, like this: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=8134 http://www.amphenolcanada.com/ProductSearc...MUSB2D11004.pdf

here are some pics of the blue screen. first one is better quality but the blueness in the screen is a bit washed out (i.e. it doesnt actually look that way). the second shows the blue aspect of the screen better (but was taken at night without flash so picture quality itself is worse). also shows the black buttons which will be used rather than the red/white ones.

heard back from them, were delayed due to people taking vacations or something...they didnt give an updated ETA but id hope ill have them by august 9/10 weekend.

they were supposed to ship the enclosures on thursday but havent heard from them yet. hopefully they ship by sometime next week so i get them sometime the following week.

yep, its plug and play into consult port (which connects to ecu), no wiring or other messing around. so it has the potential to do anything that can be done via consult

makes group buys harder to organise when you cant even maintain a current list of people because you cant edit posts (and so far havent seen any action from using report to make changes) is there some process in place so that all reports are taken care of? or will some get 'missed'? should we re-report changes that havent been fixed after X days? (whats reasonable? we dont want to make more work for mods but we have little insight into how things go so dont know what to do)

http://www.ecutalk.com/images/consult_car.jpg confirm ground is connected to ground, 12v gets 12v when ignition on (or car running), forget chk/check (not used), and the remaining 3 should be short circuit/low resistance with their respective pins on the ECU itself (grab a ecu pinout...pins are nearly always around the bolt/middle of ecu pins) but if you cant be bothered, if the display doesnt work for whatever reason and its returned in original condition in a reasonable timeframe (e.g. a week or two), then you can get a full refund (minus postage). worst case you can probably chop off ur consult port and re-wire it at the ECU...i did that for RB25DET silvia i had 3-4 years ago. never, nissan would have patented it probably, so if apexi implemented the same thing they would have been sued probably. even if they didnt, apexi didnt implement consult capabilities so thats all that matters.

Interest List please refer to this link (and search for your username) to see your position on list. cant put the list in this thread as we cant edit posts anymore.

have created a new thread for v2 displays: http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Ec...Di-t228314.html dont post in this one anymore (send me a pm if you have issue relating to v1 display)

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ECUTalk Consult LCD V2 Displays 2005 prototype showing blue screen (4MB) - just happens this video from very first prototype, uses the blue LCD available for this display. Note the blue screen isnt as visible in competing light than green, keep that in mind when deciding which LCD to get. Although that was prototype from 3 years ago, the main sensor display is similar (instead of ECO:xxx its xx.xL/100KM). Also the update speed there i think is about half the speed of the current one. Following on from the previous V1 thread, I've almost completed V2 displays that improve on the V1 displays in quite a few areas (can be seen in the 'changes in v2' section on the website). One key change is user updatable firmware (like adsl modem or computer bios), so when I add new features (perhaps logging to microsd card, audible alerts with the buzzer, etc) you will be able to upgrade your display to get the new features. The display is plug and play into the consult port and requires no wiring (so its portable also). Your consult port is located near or attached to your driver's side incabin fusebox. You will need a car that: a) supports consult (mostly evidenced by the consult plug near your fuse box, few late model Patrol etc will have port but not support consult for ECU), and b) still retains the stock ECU (piggybacks and remaps generally fine, but PowerFC etc wont work), and c) doesnt have messed up wiring to consult port (shouldnt, unless you have an engine transplant or some other reason the wiring may have been messed with) For Skylines, this is the R32's (10/89+), R33, R34. If for whatever reason the display doesnt work for your car, if its returned in original condition you can get a full refund (minus postage). Display Hardware: The unit is 144mm wide, 48mm high, and 33mm deep (buttons protrude 3mm), and weighs ~250g. It is smaller than DIN size (180x50mm) and as such could be mounted in the DIN slot, amongst other places. It has a USB port for the integrated consult interface (accessed via the menu) for those who want to use it with normal consult programs on their PC, and for firmware upgrades. The unit has 2 buttons on the front (they will be black, rather than the red/white ones in picture), a menu/enter button (the left one) and a cursor button (the right). The buttons are used to navigate through menus and the different features of the device. The menu/enter button initiates the menu (from the main display screen) or selects the currently selected item from any other menus/screens. The cursor button control the position of the cursor mainly in any of the menus, and switches between the sensor display or trip meter screen on the main display. It should be pretty easy to work it out when you use it. The screen is a 20x4 backlit screen, wide temperate (-20 to +70 operating, -30 to +80 storage), available in standard green, or white on blue ($5 extra). The cable can exit the right or the rear, so it can be flush mounted either way. Display Features: Trip meter: Shows current speed (kmh or mph), current fuel economy (L/100KM or MPG), and for the current trip: fuel economy, fuel used (L or G), fuel rate (e.g. LPH, litres per hour, or GPH), distance travelled (KMs or Miles), and time elapsed. Sensor Display: Shows current speed (kmh or mph), rpm, battery voltage, current fuel economy (L/100KM or MPG), injector duty cycle (%, and both if car has 2 injector banks), ignition timing, AAC, O2 (both if car has 2), water temperature (C or F), AFM (both if car has 2) and TPS (volts or %) Fault Codes: Displays any current fault codes, along with how many starts since the fault code last occurred. Allows fault codes to be cleared. USBIF: Enables the USB consult interface. Also shows the amount of bytes received/transferred from/to the PC and the last 4 bytes sent/received for some excitement. Max Values: highest values recorded for speed, rpm, water temp, injector duty cycle, TPS, AFM, ignition timing. Allows the max values to be cleared also. Max values are for current trip only. Time Trials: allows you to enter time trial mode, where it will record time from 0 to 60, 100, 160, or record from 0kmh until you travel 400m (i.e. quarter mile). Of course this is not to be used on public roads. Best times are saved into EEPROM (lost when you update firmware most likely). Info: read some boring stuff about who made the display, and the firmware version. Options: set injector cc size and number of cylinders for fuel/economy readings, set LCD brightness/contrast, setup TPS% min/max, KM or Miles, C or F, TPS volts or %, and allows you to reset display for firmware upgrades. (Note: Options->TPS setup): As TPS only uses 0.5v-4.5v range roughly, not full 0-5v, if you set it to % without setting up min/max, it will read ~10-80% from closed to fully open. To setup TPS, you just need to have the TPS like it would be for 0% (foot off) on main sensor display, then go into setup tps and set the 0% point to current TPS value. Then go back to sensor display and go full throttle (ideally car 'on' but not running), then back into setup TPS and set 100% value. Then it should read 0-100%. Price, Scheduling and Payment: $200 pickup or +$7 for express postage. Blue screen is $5 extra. $5/unit sold will be donated to SAU. Thought price would go up from V1 displays due to getting more of it assembled elsewhere rather than doing it myself, but this was offset by the higher quantity batch this time, so can keep it a nice even $200 for group buy. Keep in mind USB consult interfaces alone are ~$110, so for less than double that you're getting the integrated usb interface + display itself. Estimated availability is in August. I'm currently waiting on enclosure manufacture before displays can be sold. Initial run will be around 90 displays split between SAU, PGA and people who have contacted me via the website. If all 90 sell then ill aim to get another batch done. Payments will only be asked for when ive confirmed that a device is available for you. Payment is via bank transfer (St George, arrives day after at earliest), or Paypal (instant, but has an additional fee of $6 unfortunately). Paypal is only an advantage when bank transfer is inconvenient, or you want the device ASAP (eg its 8pm and bank transfer wont be processed till the next day, and arrive in my account the day after that). You dont need a paypal account necessarily to use paypal, just a credit card. Pickup is from Blacktown, Western Sydney, or possibly near Wynyard in Sydney (I work there a couple days/week). I want one, what do I do now?: Send me a PM stating your LCD preference (green/blue, only indicative for ordering purposes, you make final decision when you pay), and a contact email address (for backup purposes, also for notifications of firmware updates etc later on). I will then add you to the list (see second post). Displays will be allocated to people in the order they have express interest and have subsequently been added to the list of interested people. As I make the displays, I'll ask the people in the list via PM in turn if they still want one, and if so, request payment. If they can provide payment within a reasonable time, they can purchase it then and pickup/get it posted. Otherwise, they'll either be removed from the list or put to the end of it, depending on whether theyre no longer interested, or just cant pay right now. Things ill ask for when I've got displays ready and you're next on list: 1) Your full name 2) Your address and phone number 3) Email address (if one hasnt been provided already...for firmware updates in future) 4) Your payment method (bank transfer, paypal (+$6 fee), or pickup). Bank/paypal details will be provided at this time. Peter

yah after fitting one with black buttons, looks less of an eye sore no idea why i didnt think of it sooner, im sure people can figure out the 'left' and 'right' button without them being different colours! ive ordered some black ones so should be good.

added you. and here's some more pics of it. front, side (microsd slot for future hopefully), and rear showing the right/rear cable exit (can switch between either depending on how you want to mount) do the buttons look weird? would black/dark grey look better?

all posts are the same age when you're a new user i'd take that bet any day. not sure how a dip from 11.8AFR to 12.0AFR can cause a 30HP difference. it has to have some ignition timing component to that. also his AFR is still getting richer, not leaner as you go higher, so fuel pump is fine. your loss of power almost looks like your car leaned out a bit, which led to either pinging/detonation or the timing being retarded, which caused the drop in power. so fix the leaning out with a better fuel pump and you no longer get the drop in power from the detonation/retarding.

received prototype today. here's pic of it (its on an angle which is why it looks like enclosure window for lcd isnt big enough, but its fine) ordered 100, maybe have them start august. finally!

added you to list

FYI its impossible to 'read' the 'real' ignition timing on consult/computer, because the ECU doesnt know it. it assumes the car has its base timing set accordingly. so when its reading 5deg, its actually "base timing - 10 deg". so if ur base timing is 30, then its running 20, not 5. and normally i would think 5 is quite low (maybe in retard mode due to pinging) so you need to get ur timing done with a timing light asap considering that + the pinging. if you had access to a consult cable you could retard the timing like 10deg acrss the range via active tests (this isnt permanent, you need to keep the active test running) and see if that helps

here's design for enclosure. unlike the last one there is no pcb slots, so not much of an issue assembling it. adjoing hole for cable from right to back, so you can reposition cable depending on where you are mounting it without taking it apart

unfortunately not, only those 2 alternatives at the moment. its extremely difficult to find any 20x4 screens that fit within din size (most are 60mm high which is > 50mm din size) if u want to order 1000 however, it can be done ive put you down for a blue one

thats right, you can see the USB connector on the bottom left on the prototype display on the website (attached below)

updated. all displays will come with USB cable.