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Should alcohol be illegal?

You know how common amphetamines are for fighter pilots? Because whilst on a small dosage mental performance increases.... 1 little side effect

Notable people who admit drug use http://www.salon.com/2013/08/16/10_famous_geniuses_who_used_drugs_and_were_better_off_for_it_partner/

Pfft smoking opium was around long before prohibition was introduced

But i asked about last night not Sunday night

Where is ur build thread then fegget

Mr wiz

How is the groin after last night?

yeah be on the right side of history racist

this thread has brought the lulz. You should all listen to the podcast I just posted in the supplement section regarding steroids. but on the bold and completely off topic people having kids who can't afford them are f**king up the tax system/social welfare, we know it shouldn't but it does. This goes for a lot of other social welfare payments. also there are a lot of criminals out there who don't do drugs but are still criminals. Just saying

interesting conversation about steroids

Welcome, pics of gtr and what not. How much power do u want to get out of it? Any current mods?

no heroin? missing out son

Ill state it. I used to drive better stoned. Way less reckless

owning the skyline must have played havoc to then buy a golf

fair enough mate, drugs are always a touchy subject because we all know someone who is ruined because of them or have died due to using them.

also Troy haven't seen you on here for ages where have you been?

im from campbelltown.... enough said

I don't think we will see eye to eye on this topic. we each have a point of view. I just don't see the difference between a weekend drinker to a weekend drug user

my point is simple, you can destroy your life on just as many vices that are legal, why not just make some of the party drugs legal, collect some tax revenue from them, introduce a better quality product to the market that is regulated. otherwise, become a muslim state, no alcohol, no gambling, etc I believe in freedom of choice

I'll address the bold. But first you seem to only be focusing in on addicts rather than say medical users or even social users. As such I can't see a difference been a drug addict, an alcoholic, a gambler and to an extent adrenaline junkies We don't need them as a social thing, true, but again how many BBQs do we go to where people drink, how many people do you know can't go out with the boys or girls and not drink and still have a good time? I know people who flat out refuse to be designated driver and if they are, they are the shittest person on earth to go out with Yes people make bad decisions all the time, regardless of substance abuse. That is no reason to ban drugs because your judgment is once again just as impaired drinking or partaking in anything that you may have an addiction to. Otherwise ban cars because people make stupid decisions behind the wheel every day. I've sent 3 people home due to being either drunk at work or still under the influence. I've sent one person home for being high. I fail to see your argument here, things are in place for this sort of behavior already, the old 3 strikes you're out policy applies. Sure it effects employers and families but no different to an alcoholic or gambler, hell even the speed racer who has a bad accident one day cause of their reckless driving Being in public high? how many angry stoners have you met (whilst high), again I am not talking addicts here. Sure cocaine and speed can cause social problems, no different to all these heros that drink to much or have anger issues. The last two points are linked, I agree that you should be tested for substances if you are on social welfare, but again where do you draw your line? Our current system allows welfare bludgers to drink or put the cash through the pokies, buy ciggies and other things that you and i may shudder about but their freedom allows.

the plus side to a degree is that we are meant to be living in a world or at least country with freedom of choice. Something like an adult taking a couple of pills on a Friday night to me is the same as an adult drinking a few beers on a friday night. it would also in my opinion line up with other social norms and acceptable practices like smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol. for me this doesn't just end with party drugs, I feel the same regarding steroids and a number nootropics that are on the market. put it in line with being a vegan or meat eater. now I am not saying sell a line of coke over the counter at a bar because that is dangerous and RSA doesn't work that best as is. But under controlled measures (again i acknowledge that people will find away around this) it isnt necessarily a bad thing. If it is produced in controlled labs where they aren't mixed with garden pesticides or smashed fluorescent lights its even better. People after all are going to do drugs from now until the end of civilization what is wrong with a grown adult making the decision to take a couple of pills or do some coke? they only hurt their own health much like smoking and drinking does. I guess my main argument is that a consenting adult should have the choice.

Sorry to hear about your family member. comparing party drugs to alcohol is a legitimate argument in my opinion. I have heard from a number of people who have been to Amsterdam and have reported that the local view on weed for example is similar to non smokers views on cigarettes out here. We all know someone who has thrown their life away due to drugs, but im sure we all know someone who has done the same due to gambling or alcohol. I can see the plus side to legalizing party drugs under controlled circumstances. This with a mix of education and it could have its place in society. For instance, obviously 18 and older, but if you had to get say a permit for them, which stated how big a dosage you could purchase from a chemist and limit how much you can buy per day or week. Perhaps it would work. Sure people will find away around that, but again people do that with gambling problems and booze problems as it is. I think that it is silly to just dismiss it because of the argument that "i know someone who's life it ruined"