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Its a joke. No doubt Dan having another new meter installed yeserday could be polotics...but... "We know Toro Rosso had two failures this morning. Sergio Perez's sensor failed for the entirety of the race and others were given other readings." Right or wrong re process in Melb...go RBR for bashing FIA over the head over this cluster fark. All the F1 teams do a rather stellar job getting 15 cars to the finish line in Melb and an FIA part is the root of stupidity and performance differentiators.
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Talk is RBR are the best on the long runs for pace. But who knows what people are doing for engine power. Talk was RBR are losing 0.8sec down the straights!
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LOL...awesome! Cant believe how little traffic you have. I shat myself as I left the pits in the Swift. I thought it was going to roll over on him at speed if I clipped a kerb but was actually an amazing little car!
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Half expect RBR are willing to fall on the sword early and bring the BS out in the open. I hear what you are saying about others obeying...but for all we know RBR may have been the worst example being asked to forfeit 4% power vs lesser amounts for others cars. It matters little, the fact that many cars were all winding back performance, likely to all differing levels then why even have qualifying or practice sessions. Just have a raffle and fit random flow meters to the cars and watch them jockey for position in a race as the FIA tell them to slow down or allow them to speed up all on different levels ...retarded. I am no fan of RBR...but good on them for busing balls over this now and hopefully we will avoid the farce of inaccurate instruments hurting a percentage of th efields performance over a race weekend, because....lotter dip of erroneous sensors says so
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My money is on a very strong weekend by Williams. They generally go alright around there and then fall off the face of the planet until the end of the year. Will be very interesting to see the racing as there are plenty of overtaiking opportunities at Sepang
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OH wait there is more...from a vested party of course! Speaking exclusively to AUTOSPORT, Horner said: "Technical directives are not of regulatory value." "They are the opinion of the technical delegate - as was made clear in the Pirelli case [the Mercedes secret test], which clearly stated that opinions of Charlie are not regulatory "It [them being opinions] is even stated on the bottom of the directives now, that these do not have a regulatory value."
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So just like stewards saying tuned mass dampers were legal and then the FIA over turned their own stewards at the ICA.. So is that like being found innocent only to have an appeal at the higher body overturn anything decided by race stewards. Like I said, stewards can be over ruled....technical directives can be ruled to be correct but so can another interpretation of the technical regulations and the ICA have the final word AND thats it from me....I know I am right...doesnt matter what you think Webber is running the Porsche at Silverstone this week...may not even bother with washed out Malaysian race oh...and just read Hrner interview on James Allens site... http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/03/red-bulls-horner-confident-that-team-will-get-melbourne-points-back-at-appeal/ “We are appealing on the grounds that we are extremely confident that we have not broken the rules, that we haven’t exceeded the 100kg/hour of fuel that is permitted to be utilised by the car and the engine,” he said. “Our whole case is on the fact of which reading is correct. We have a [FIA] sensor that is drifting and isn’t reading correctly versus a fuel rail that we know is calibrated and we know that hasn’t varied throughout the weekend. We haven’t broken the Technical Regulations. That we haven’t exceeded the fuel flow limit and that the sensor, which hopefully we will be able to demonstrate in the appeal, is erroneous.” Although Technical Directives – the secretive documents issued by the FIA to teams to clarify and update interpretations of rules on complex technical areas – are considered by many F1 teams to supersede the technical regulations, Horner said that his team doesn’t see them that way, that they are more of an “opinion”. The role of Technical Directives in governing F1 will be tested at the appeal hearing. I dont like their chances either but I have read a few SKKY journos, Gary Anderson etc talk about how grey technical directives. Lowden also questioned that its more practice and in the sports interest to follow the directives rather than legal and if challenged could be a dangerous ruling for F1
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Umm...still wrong. They are not binding. If in 2009 the FIA issued a technical directive banning double diffusers then Brawn woudl have been able to continue running them if they believe they complied to the technical regulations. If they were excluded from results and felt confident their car complied then the International Court of Appeals would have made a ruling on the technical regulations. The examples you talk of like EBDs were not banned mid season under a Technical Directive. Remember what happened when they tried....teams like RBR were going to appeal and FIA knew that by the letter of the regulations they could have possibly lost at the International Court of Appeals so watered down subsequent Directives so that nothing really changed and teams were happy to run the year out. At the end of the year the new technical regulations ruled things out. So its not a discussion of whether RBR were right or wrong. I suspect the are screwed. But its a matter of a Technical Directive can be contested if a team feels they are in compliance with the Technical Regulations and feel that the clarification of the Directive being different but equal to their interpretation of the regulation. ...anyway... But since the
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lol, not arguing.... Read the 2014 regs...JA is wrong too....it does not legally supersede the technical regs....its meant for clarifications that teams can take or leave....its wise to take Copy and paste from FIA WEBSITE 5.1.4 Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h. 5.1.5 Below 10500rpm the fuel mass flow must not exceed Q (kg/h) = 0.009 N(rpm)+ 5.5. 5.10.3 Homologated sensors must be fitted which directly measure the pressure, the temperature and the flow of the fuel supplied to the injectors, these signals must be supplied to the FIA data logger. RBR are arguing that their data shows they are compliant with these technical regulations.
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Thats wrong Harry, A Technical Directive IS NOT the technical regulations!!!! Thats the point I am trying to make. You would be brave or have to have good reason to go against a technical directive, but it is more Charlies opinion as FIA front man of the technical regulation and is openly able to be contested.; as RBR are doing. "Technical regulations" say "Fuel mass flow must not exceed 100kg/h " Technical Directives are NOT BINDING and issued as means of clarifications. The International Court of Appeals will have the final say, but they will firstly look at the Technical Regulations and see if there is ample compliance with those in consultation with the regulations. "Opinions" given by the FIA outside of the Technical Regulations are meant for guidance and they are only guidance they do not constitute part of the Technical Regulations. A Technical Directive may come from the FIA but up to the ICA to see if RBR were in compliance with the Technical Regulations, not a technical directive
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Interesting that the fuel meter isnt in the technical regulations! It is covered in a technical directive from Charlie Whiting so not a rule, just Charlies opinion on things. So pretty big loop hole, when the clarifications even talk about when the meter is faulty you can use injectors etc as a means Talk is by the FIA meter Dan would have slowed to a pace that would have seen him come home 5th
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Your farked in the head! ...said with all the love in the world...but seems to be true based on your statements
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A Boy's Love For His Rb20
Roy replied to Roy's topic in Members Cars, Project Overhauls & Restorations
Yeh, when I went looking to replace my R31 GTS-X so many of the 32s I was looking at were in rather horrible condition and a bit tacky with mods and bits on them. I saw the 32 and the AVS wheels, very tody condition and just HKS filter and exhaust made me jump at it. So glad I did as the alternative was a red 300ZX TT and whilst I still have a soft spot for the ZED it woudl never have been able to grow with me and do all the things the 32 has as cheaply as it has -
Interesting to read about Merc. But dont assume to much. ..quite possible that their data supported what the FIA instrumetn was telling them so turned it down... vs RBR who claim their data demonstrated it was wrong and didnt want to surrender even more power
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Yeh, good on him. Happy for a young level headed guy coming in and keeping an old fella very honest. I was alwasy a DC fan, and the article touches on a debrief session when Mika and DC were in there with engineers and testing manager and mid de-brief RD walks in and asks "what are we doing..." . After the response from the testing manager he clarifies "well ok, now what are they doing" pointing at DC and his engineer. The use of "we" for Mika and the team and then "they" for DC and his engineer. Only to later tell DC to move over in two races handing Mika wins...there is plenty on the article that sets the tone for how RD trends to treat people and divide the people in the team into corners. No wonder a guy like Montoya and Alonso had trouble fitting in with a wanker like RD running the show
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My hatred for Dennis has been renewed by the article on Autosport about DCs time at McLaren. Farking egotistical carntbag!!! Hope Mac eat d1ck all year!!!
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SO by Ron Dennis's words...McLaren are losers! Shame, I like young Magnussen
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Pretty simple...give them external gates for boost regulation rather then the mhu doody-wackers
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They wont even let me do that. Can you shoot me over an invite?
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Anyone else having problems with racing for me? It wont let me log in
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Jarrod got a cracker of a shot there. His other pics are pretty cule with some lurid slides and off track excursions. http://www.jrmphotography.com.au/
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Lets see Vettel get a good weekend in and see if Dan can ruffle feathers. It does look like being a race for the 3rd step between RBR, Williams and McLaren which will make for interesting racing. But Mercedes are clearly quicker much like Seb was in Singapore last year. Pace to burn.
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FIA ha to do it but what a fark up with faulty sensor and other teams having problems with them in testing. Seems a cluster f@#K!
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Gutted for Lotus and in particular Romain....its ok...Eric will bin Button and give my boy a call for next year
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A Boy's Love For His Rb20
Roy replied to Roy's topic in Members Cars, Project Overhauls & Restorations
LOL..yeh its off the road a fair bit and spends plenty off tome up in the air on a hoist