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So sign Hulkenburg already so that Romain can habnd him the beating he deserves! Was kind of excited at the prospect of Williams bottiong Maldanado but guess this means he is likely to stay and Massa looking at retirement

That car is AWESOME simply because it is runnign WEDS

Mark has copped to the harsh reality regarding his ability to eek out life from the Pirelli tyres "...but that's the way it's been the last... since 2011. I'm not going to learn now, mate. Old dog, new tricks, it's over."

Romains passed....only different is possible damage or associated with being short wheel base

Yeh, considering he has never been strong here...and Seb was on it...Mark pulled out the Mark of old on that lap. I am sitting here really wishing that Kobi could come back and drive for Lotus next year. Or even Williams. 12 months on its a joke that Kobi got sacked and Perez got the nod for an upgrade to McLaren. Would love to see a nationalistic Honda at McLaren swap out Perez for Kobi. Also been the first GP in a while where Jev hasnt had tech problems but hasnt seemed to change anything. He just cant qualify to save his life. And if I say it often enough I hope it comes true. Brawn to WIlliams, Brawn to Williams, Brawn to Williams!

Kimi just got reamed for floor failing an FIA test Another thing to stress the relationship

How funny was it watching Vettel crack it with head movements showing he wasnt happy

Power maybe. Torque ? Seems not! The PPG boxes if put together properly seem to hold together behind RB30s and big power...though never seem a helical gear set being abused...always the straight cut boxes behind the track car setups

I dont think the team has been dumping on Kimi. They told Romain only two races ago to man up and pass Kimi if he wants the position. He couldnt and didnt so I think the bigger issue is Kimi and the team owners. Seems he has not been paid a cent all year....thats the issue. If someone owes you 15 million I think sh1t is going yo hit the fan. Poor old Boullier has built up a lean and capable operation and even then Gerard Lopez wont cough up the money promised. Hell he paid 1 dollar for the team and stands to sell it for considerable more with the new investment. Shame to see Kimi going, just hope its Hulk or Massa and not Maldanado who fronts up for 2014

COME ON ROMAIN!!!! ...runs off to check sportsbet

My advice...bugger Aus....go to the Malaysian GP! Cheaper and you get a good holiday and way better vantage point for the race

LOL, I love these discussions. We very rarely see things the same way. I happen to agree Dan & STR were silly and that his move was never going to happen if he didnt run wide. Romains I think was a little more line ball in Hungary....but he bashed Button so deserved a haircut anyway. But Hulk in India? That is the clearest case of gaining an advantge by running off track I can think of...nowhere near passed...Bottas does the done thing and forces him wide as Hulk is on teh outside and rather than lift he just drives off the circuit and past! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7E2hIFa670

Oh, an dhow did Hulk not get a penalty for his off track excursion and pass?

Its true. Of the GPs I have been to the only people with Williams merch are the stores otuside sellign old BMW-Williams gear etc. No current gear. But whilst I like the team it doesnt help they have a tool and a softly spoken rookie for drivers. Re funnding. PDVSA are going to have to hand over funding due to their exit prior to the end of their contract ... so thats some cash and reports have Massa and Bernie sweetening the deal to keep Brazilian money and interest in F1. So their budget wont be too shabby, but wont be great. They relaly need some Chinese oil money

Pagid RS19s are nothing like DS2500s though. Endless CCRG are race pads! The Club Racer are much bitier then DS2500s from what I could feel in the car I have driven with them (WRX so pretty boig variable there). All the suggested pads are damn good pads but bite, temp range and price all very different to DS2500s. My guess again is if you like DS2500s then stay away from Hawk which generally have a lot more bitet then the more wooden DS2500s. QFM A1RM are a decent enough pad but like the RB74 and others I think you will find they wear just as fast, if not faster than DS2500s. If you like the feel and lack of too much bite of the DS2500s then consider something like a Pagid RS4-2 pads. They are a nice pad that are not too bitey (for those without ABS) and last a life time...good on rotor wear as well

The more I think about it the more it makes sense to me....but who knows. What else is Brawn going to do? Williams would be a great home for him and with Maldanado gone gives them a few options with regards to getting a bankable driver in there. Not enthused about it being Massa, I think I would rather Di Resta or someone. A return of Hulk would be great but Hulk I think is past having to gamble with a team taking a step up in performance.

He isnt going to replace Whitmarsh which is the role he wants. At McLaren he wotn have the autonomy he wants and he didnt like how Honda went about their F1 program so no loyalty there. I think if anything Williams makes alot of sense as Frank and co woudl welcome him with open arms and frees up Pat Symiodns to be the tech director

And Jordan who seems to have an uncanny knack of making these calls said several months ago that Brawn will be going to Williams

This ..3 deg is a fair bit of camber if you call KU36, Federal 595 RSR and Advan AD08 semis (a lot of people do these days) if you are running RE55s and the spring rate and roll package you are... I would guess its about close to optimum. With AO50s it could very well be not enough. I ask because the rule is softer springs and less camber is generally required with grippy street tyres. With premium street tyres , running too much camber means you never generate the grip to generate the roll to use the face of the tyre and you end up with an understeery car. My car was finally sorted on RE55s then I moved on to AO50s and have had to change a few things re springs, alignment etc to get it how I want to drive...and its still not there. The thing is way quicker on AO50s but I still have not got the balance of the car as sorted on the AO50s. So from my experience above is why I asked about tyres. And going back to when I ran street Falkens one track day with my optimised RE55 setup,...was a washy piece of understeering poo that was hard to get in, through or out of a corner

Am I the only one hoping he was going to drop it doing skids. Maybe the rear wing into the pit wall!

When you get out of bed of a morning is there any prospect of anything making you happy? I am going to start calling you Alf Stewart! Everyone is a dunce and a ratbag and hopeless

I am looking at a V6 MX6 myself as a stress free daily. I borrowed my folks years ago for about 3 months and they are cool cars. The V6 sounds pretty cool,. revs nicely. They are comfortable, handle ok...and the best thing is the owners are like my folks...mechanics say spend thousands on bushes, shocks, ...stuff...and they typically have. So for less than 4kl its pretty easy to find one with a mature owner and good service history. I am having loads of problems trying to find a decent E36 or B5 A4 because waaay too many idiots have driven them into the ground as the cars second and thirds owners. Stereos were more important than servicing it seems. So, if you like the styline of the MX6.,..which I do I think they are a good fun, low key daily that are dirt cheap. Though they are not mega economical...but that may be the result of how i drove. it. They are not fast, but they rev and are fun. You can get up them and they are brisk and you are not doing anythign highly illegal or going to lose your licence.

Whole discussion is rather mute without knowing the tyres you run. What R-Spec?

What the guy that only won so many GPs because they are hacks these days due to having so many GPs nd had a complicit team mate... and were handing out points like candy? Sorry...couldn;t help myself Massa to Williams Well he can steer if that Brazilian brain of his gets out of bed and isnt having a sook. I hope he brings his top game to Williams....but you cant help but think they would be better taking a young talented guy....hell they are running Merc engines next year so almost rather Sam Bird be given a shot. At the end of the day they need someone that will not bin cars and put it about where it needs to be and hope that the team build a decent car. Not sure Massa i sgoing to put the car where it shouldnt be or help develop the car

I think you will find that the Grp A GTRs all ran 18s...not 17s