Roy

Is that really true though?!?! Forget the Webber incidents etc for a moment. Just generally... Historically they gave each other room. Then with increases in safety and tracks with run off emerging as the norm you started to see guys more commonly being forced wide. Typically you used the exit and compromised their run in the corner...but I am not sure I accept the "you run them out of room/track theory. God knows its dangerous making blanket statements as moves around the outside are common in flip-flop/S-bends etc. But I do agree that the guy on the inside has the line and advantage and has the right to hang around , but if he is a wheel behind on a compromised line for the exit as he is entering so shallow then I am not sure its so clear cut. So jumping back to the Webber theory I just dont think its so clear cut. If you try an outside move on a 90deg corner you have to expect you are going to be pinched on the exit these days and probably forced to take to the run off area as they take the line on exit if you are anything remotely wheel to wheel. This is where you are better trying to compromise their entry then get a better exit with the over-under style move. But on a flip flop/S-bend the guy on the inside has to get back to the other side of the track asap to get a good run on the exit of the second bend. In the case of Webber-Massa, Masa forced Webber off the track after a dive bombing wheel clash when hsi normal line would have been to hand left on exit so he had a more optimum line for the second half of the corner. So you are free to tae the normal line but I guess to e its blurred with racing craft when you hang around the outside hoping to gain track position and the inside line for the second corner or final 90deg part of the croner

Are 2530s and -5s the same part number? They were the ones he was specifically talking about and I made the assumption it could/would be the case with other HKS-Garret equiv turbz

You can race Button and Alonso around the outside and even Grosjean. I think Webber was a little ruthless on Maldanado and could have left him more space at Pastor was able to hang around but Massa did come back and sort of bash up in there, then hacked it on the exit.

Vettel had an amazing drive to get on the podium. One thing though if you go back to Vettel running into Webber at Suzuka all those years ago. Then when he messed up behind the pace car in Hungary. In Singapore he and Button almost came together and then tonight him and Dan. He needs to be a little more careful under the safety car. He seems to run a load of close calls And post race interview with Hamilton....credit to the guy he handled himself well. Chatty without being sooky or playing victim. Makes me think about Schuey saying losing the past few years has taught him a lot. He handled what must be massive disappointment with two mechanical DNFs and two mechanical problems that robbed him of pace in the last 4 races!

Did Vettel jut say "we had a chance to fark it up" ? Then "bloody" LOL, DC just apologised for him! Kimi brings out the worst in people

"Ah not much. People give me shit for not smiling enough ... "

Best podium interview in a long while!

Yeh, its a question of who he was pulling it on. Massa and Faildanado...not quite the same as Alonso and Button so pick your battle

I love Kimi!

Kimi better win this. OIf Vettel wins I will never watch another F1 race

WHAT A FARKING CIRCUS!

Webber 9th Man...I want to harm myself

Webber needs to stop showing so much respect for the other drivers and not hang around the outside...get it up the inside for CHRISTS SAKE! And it looks to be a race between Kimi and Vettel...lucky fark will get the tyres to the end

Button just did what Webber should have done...muscled up the inside. Trying to get the job done on the outside of Maldanado was always going to end in tears

COME ON KIMI!!!!!!! I do feel a little sorry for Lewis. What the hell are McLaren doing?

Vettel is a TOOL. Almost running into Dan

So they mess up and now they get to pull the car out of parc ferme and grt to change gearing etc. I wonder if he still has to start on the same set of tyres he qualified in Q3 on? Either way it will at least make for interesting viewing to see how he moves through the field. I am betting Helmut has spoken to Vergne and Dan already!

I think the rule makes sense. It does seem harsh but how dangerous is it for cars to be on their mega hot lap and those that ran before with 30seconds to go on the clock are stopping by the side of the track as they didnt want to carry the fuel around with them. Considering the top 10 are covered by 1.1 seconds with 2nd to 6th less then 0.3 seconds apart there is a spot of two to be gained from being a few kgs lighter on fuel. The other thing is that the cars weight is inc fuel, so they need enough for a sample and also enough that they are not underweight

Out of interest I was told by a turbo whore friend who used to have a bedroom full of car parts that the HKS turbo use a steel ball bearing cage where as the Garret are plastic. Any truth to it or maybe that was one of the things that differentiated the 2530 and -5s

Well it has now been confitrmed that hr did not have enough fuel and is starting from last YAY! Webber might get the win but Lewis is looking mega quick. I am also betting he has not got very good 7th gear for overtaking on the straight so will be interesting to see if he can get a point as it looks pretty close up front with STR and the 3 new teams being off the top ten pace.

Knowing how McLaren have been kicking home goals like in Singapore I am betting his car breaks and Webber takes a won Have to say though, Whitmarsh must be looking at where Button is and then Homo and really be scratching his head. They are losing the freaskishly quick guy but keeping their consistant racer who rarely uses a cars pace in quali. And then Homo must be looking at the car he is getting at the moment and look at Mercedes and be worrying....seems McLaren and Lewis are the losers from the decision to move on. A point was raised tonight that I had not considered. Part of the reason why Vergne flatters in the races compared to Disco Dan as he is always getting booted in Q1 so has loads of fresh tyres vs Dan that uses all his tyres up in Q1 and Q2 so ultimately loses some race pace for not having fresh tyres

Was watching a doco on fighter planes today and I started dreaming how good would it be to see the US GP increase interest in corporate USA and someone like Lockheed Martin/BAE etc get behind an F1 team with tech/engineering effort. Would be interesting to see how the Yanks go as it has been over 20 years since they have had a team in F1.

I would rather smash Pinkham's back door in

Webber with more KERS problems. I wonder if its to do with his size meaning the KERS installation is a little more compromised in his car. He seems to have all the KERS failures!

I would be there in a heartbeat. I watched a Superstars round there and the place is great for tin top racing. So much overtaking opps