I have to say something here. Took a couple of hours yesterday to read the thread for start to finish
Yes the GTR is a racebred car. Yes the Supra is not a racebred car. The GTR is compared to Porsches. The first time I saw a Supra in a magazine was in Wheels and they were comparing a DB7 to a Supra. The Supra is a GT car. Grand Tourer. How good a GT car it is, is a different matter. I like it. If you're too big to be comfortable in one, buy a Falcon or Commodore.
People talking about getting Supra owners to go out to win Dutton Rallies and other comps, my question to you is how many rallies and comps have you won? Don't ride on the coat-tails of your contemporaries. Lets see you win a Targa. I guess you think all Skyline owners are professional racers because a few actual racers did win comps. It takes a lot of money to win any comp.
The only pro-racer to make a comment here makes some valid points, including the racing homologation of the Skyline. When he was racing the Supra, he was not allowed to change vital components of the setup due to the rules. Almost all Supra TT owners make those changes as soon as the car is in our hands.
Currently Australian tuners are roughly about 5 to 6 years behind the Americans in what we can achieve with the Supra, especially with the motor. Even the Japanese don't get as much out of a 2JZ as the yanks. The Americans have been at it for so long and the economies of scale dictate that they will always be ahead. It is a shame that the Skyline was not sold in the US as I'm sure the performance of the RB would be further advanced. But PHR now stock GTR bits so you never know.
To people that want to see more Supra's at the local track, I completely agree with you. The ACT Supra Club is trying to promote track days and friendly comps with [shock-horror] the boys and gals from the ACT chapter of SAU.
There are lots of youtube vids of Supra's at race tracks. You just have to look. Here's one example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdioZbLyHIo...feature=related
We definitely need more Australian content but we're working on that. There is just so much more of Supra's on highways and drag strips cause of Americas love for those races.
To the poster asking about Supra performance at Wakefield, from memory the DAMN Supra completed Wakefield in 1:09 for the Autosalon Street car of the year comp a couple of years ago. It was the drivers first time at the track. And yes a Skyline took out that comp.
To the people talking about big body kits and other mods on Supra's, I agree with you. I think Lambo doors belong on Lambos. There are only a select few kits that look nice on a Supra like the TRD and Ridox kits but that's about it as far as I'm concerned. Don't throw too many stones though, there are some bad things being done to the Skylines too.
There's nothing wrong with hanging a bit of shit on owners of other makes of cars. It's like supporting the footy team of your choice. You give the other guy some shit. I talk trash to SZ owners, Skyline owners, V8 owners, the whole lot. But it's usually in the presence of those people. We all have a laugh. It gets bad when it comes to forums though, cause people get carried away. That's all that I will say on that.
I don't think I need to say anything about the original posters question, you know where I think the RZ and GTS stand. There are people on SF.com talking about their stock SZ beating a stock GTS but I can't confirm that to be more than forum spew. It sounds like bullshit.
Niko