RICE RACING

This is a fantastic car

Good to see mate makes sense to me.

Hey mate have not seen you on AR for a while send us a PM

^ You could adopt similar type test, using your race logic and circuit tools software for example

Do the company provide you with levels of down force & drag for certain wing angles relative to speed? I agree with you on the potential for placebo effect btw. Hard thing to test at the end of the day, too many variables, and not enough consistency for all us if we are honest. I will try to find a link you blokes would maybe like that shows how to go about testing something like this.

I was at Sandown with my VBOX3i and recorded 1:27.72 V's the NATSOFT 1:27.72. Each time I have tested a Performance Box/Drift Box or VBOX mini V's my equipment (VBOX3 or VBOX3i) and used at same event where there was the "official" time it was the same.

R35 Computers change gears for you, they brake for you, they put down the power for you. That is a biggest portion of what makes up a good lap & makes it available for even the inept. To get it is a commitment to speed (you) and knowing when to toggle the computers on and off (you pressing the accelerator and brake). Its not real driving, fast no question about it, but not real

You sir need to learn what you are talking about and who you are talking too before you post another foolish set as above Love the interweb When you have your own $50k worth of #1 testing gear used all over the planet come talk to me. What I typed is correct, as I am the only person here qualified to type it as I have tested it, I own it, I use it all the time, Maybe though you with your internetz "opinion" should pass on your information to some others who test professionally I'm sure they would laugh at you pretty hard just as I am now If you get a time on your low spec race logic GPS machine, I can tell you in reference to my unit it will be right. That was the point of my post was to assure people from facts that you do not need to rely on someone else to measure your car when you have the technology to do it yourself. No need for you to qualify your comments saying it was not "official" or measured with XYZ reference, they are irrelevant in this day and age and open to error anyway (both human and mechanical/electronic).

Awesome result, but hats off to the multiple computers driving the car. Applying power to wheels, changing gears for you etc. I can see the next model GTR will just have a kiddie steering wheel (like you buy for your son) that you twirl, and you can make Vroom Vroom noises while you do 56? second laps

Here is a snap shot of the max speed (my memory is bad was 210.81kmh).

Would not worry too much about crapsoft/datron "transponder held in shopping bag out side door of car LOL" results if you have a Race Logic (even ghetto spec $800 dollar unit) then you have accurate times simple as that Good job mate

It was a great day out (my first time to Sandown). Love the track. I saw from your video's you were doing ~200kph (how accurate is that thing you use???) on my VBOX3i the blue RX7 was doing 210.78kmh.... funniest thing I saw all day was the race spec Mustang struggling to pass the quiet stock road car down the straights.

Best post in this thread period

Well you cant expect to have it all one way and talk down others and talk up your own "sports sedan" If its a street car then fine......... On the other hand if you have to gut it, put it on alcohol, talk down factory track spec rubber which is only 1.5sec a lap less than slick tires, forget to mention your car has different turbochargers, is boosted, tuned, and highly developed (more so than others cars). It kinda takes away from what you have done (or money you have spent on fancy bits), sure you can spam every forum on earth and say how great you are and your car is, but at the end of the day you look like a tool for doing so. You have developed some stuff, good on you. No need to talk it up and put down others cars to make yourself feel better or sell it up as an amazing achievement........ its a simple case of cubic dollars and cubic computers driving your car that got you a victory over far simpler cars that are no more modified than your own!.(e.g. RX7 weight is 1240kg stock) race track prepared one was 1040kg, your GTR was what? it could go on forever, my point is you do yourself no favor excusing up your win with "this was bad" "that was not ideal" "proper analysis" with a $850 GPS logger etc etc. I know you need to sell your shit, but relax a bit and learn to be humble, it would be far better to read.

How heavy is this GTR as it ran? it looks like its missing some interior items?. Does it run on alcohol too? Bigger turbochargers? Some detail would be appreciated to quantify it compared to other cars, you have to take your pants off to the others though, least they are driven in majority by the driver and not a raft of ECU's, sensors, actuators, and computer programs!

120Y and 200B FTW

Mazda calling it a 654cc two rotor Wankel is 100% honest and correct they simply did not realize people would become so stupid with the advent of the internets and car forums The onus is on Datsun drivers and other PISTON enthusiasts to see how this superior engine operates and understand it, maybe if they took some time too they too could have had a rotary engine and a superior car like the FD3S and beaten everyone else in the world for 4 years straight or won LeMans 24hr with a car from Japan I guess you can only dream and talk trash on your fav forum about how rotaries suck to make you feel better about being inferior and ultimately losers

See with our engine we have distinct separate zones in which different parts of the otto cycle are conducted. This basic cycle in the RCE takes 1080 degrees to complete (as defined by geometrical relationship of its rotary combustion cycle V's your reciprocating versions), any engine is rated on all of its elements completing one cycle be it two stroke, 4 stroke or Wankel. If you want to count all of the engine for a Wankel (as I do) then you find its full displacement is 3.924lt for a 13B engine. < How this compares to other principles for fairness in all forms of life I have explained many times already For anyone in doubt I will spell it out for you....... you cannot with ANY ENGINE TYPE only count part of it Thus I call a 13B a 3.924lt engine which is what it is, but its a Wankel and if you don't understand how to compare it on an equivalence basis to other inferior engine types then you need to learn 1.3lt 2 stroke (is it "similar" YES!) 2.6lt 4 stroke (is it "similar" YES!) what is it really? its a 654cc chamber 2 rotor Wankel that actually displaces 3924cc in 1080 degree Wankel Cycle

I came here and set you delude fools straight be a man get over it and sell the Datsun and get a real car

You missed the important point in my many posts. Gary is wrong. The reason why is as I explained that the piston or rotor is directly linked to the shaft. You piston is link by a mechanical leverage system so somehow you are cheating and we should be measuring the linear speed of the piston and rating it that way! < that is ridiculous just as is the point Gary is trying to push. its a pointless and has no logic at all. The only thing that matters here is power pulses! that is the definition that all positive displacement internal combustion engines need achieve and it reveals their displacement from this very basic fundamental fact. I will say it again. A Wankel rotary has one power pulse per 1 output shaft revolution per rotor. It takes three full revolutions of this shaft for one Wankel engine cycle to be completed. So it is very basic that for a 13B of single chamber displacement of 654cc that you have the following. 1 revolution = 654cc x 2 (rotors) x 1 (rev or 360 deg) = 1308cc 2 revolutions = 654cc x 2 (rotors) x 2 (revs or 720deg) =2616cc 3 revolutions = 654cc x 2 (rotors) x 3 (revs or 1080 deg) =3924cc Again the Wankel satisfies ALL of the above conditions and it can be called any one of the three for comparison arguments or option 1 as a Wankel Rotary Combustion Cycle, so far as displacement goes its is ONLY complete after 1080 deg or 3 full output shaft revolutions, this simply serves as telling people who would otherwise not know that it takes this long for ALL combustion faces to be account for........................ as is defined by the Wankel engine cycle. It really is that basic at the end of the day. So for comparison reasons you can pick any one of the 3 options to see how much the 13B breaths as compared to any other internal combustion engine. IMHO reputable bodies worked all this back out in the 70's be they insurance, taxation or racing regulators. It is not that hard, hell if I can figure it out anyone can

Waiting for more pics of boobs

in your articulate reply you forgot point F........... You are a tool

I don't even have a degree, my point is its hard to explain something of a technical nature to most if they do not understand the concepts of it all. Its like trying to do a subject without having done the prior one.... it simply makes it too hard to follow and people just cant keep up. When I did thermodynamics the actual physics of how a rotary worked was glossed over, I learned much more from my own application of my education in the following 12 years.

I am not arrogant at all, anyone who meets me will tell you that in person, don't take the internets and a typed word as reading into someones character!

It has 4 distinct and separate stages to its cycle, it is not a 2 stroke at all. It may sound like one as it does not have any valves to silence the exhaust pulse thus like a 2 stroke they are loud. I am no Mr Bigshot, but I am right in what I say. It is on you and anyone else who is uneducated and opinionated to re read the posts and take it upon yourself to understand what is being shown to you *if you dont get it by now you really need to take some time to get up to speed with thermodynamics*. Sadly if your not educated in Mechanical Engineering or are plain slow, then you will never get it, and will go on and on like most others who do on forums appealing only to those of similar intellect You want to know my trade my back ground? get off your arse and go to my web site Unlike most people with opinions I do this for a living and am good at it, when you can shape up to me then I will accept your critical internet forum opinion till then its nothing more than a misguided uneducated delusional rant by people who never knew much in the first place I like ALL engines, I understand ALL engines when you or anyone else who has contributed here can say the same then I will be happy to explain more but going over and over the same basic fundamentals I typed is a waste of my time and dare say yours as well