when you put it in to a group such as jap imports thats a load of crap most of the hoons are in crap falcons or most common Commodors and its always the P plater college kids that pull skids and hoon cause they think they are the king of the road i remember a while back reading a thread from the meeting spot on fridays when the commodor clubs showed up pulling skids and skylines get the blame not fair IMO its so stereo typical