lol women arent a whole and can't be regarded that way.. i think you mean MOST women..
so which one of your seemingly "innocuous questions" that you was posting in the forums was the question you was trying to get a real response
dr phil is a loser.. spills crap he's read from books..
and no i'm not getting into this domestic.. every1 has given good points for haggling.. either ones will work.. its not a matter of shit negotiators.. different tactics work.. and it's as terry and others have pointed out.. the dealer wants a sale.. which tactic you use may let the dealer know how serious you are.. if you back off to much or do the it's my way or no way, you can miss the deal... if its a good price then others will be looking too.. if many people are looking the dealer won't just drop the price
and Terry made a good point in his last post about the end of month "trigger happy" as long as the sales figures are reached.. also if they are too low also as they will be wanting to increase as much as possible and will want any sale
anyway gl with it.. and let round 1 begin 'ding ding' FIGHT lol