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fish oil definitely helped with my knees fyi. I have the super duper concentrated one cause I don't like swallowing 6 horse pills err'day

didnt stretch after 100 shrugs tonight, paying the price now Getting fairly over women in the weights room wearing really tight clothing and insisting on working out near me, it's really bloody distracting!

that's the fitness and health world for ya, everybody's an expert except for beginners yeah Dan HIIT stuff kills me even if it's only for a short time still, but I've noticed that doing a lot of strength training has now enabled me to start doing cardio without feeling like I'm going to die. From all of my reading, and from what I've seen with my own progress, it's doing a lot more benefit for me than the 3km walks or steady state treadmill work I was doing previously. Which is good, because I'm not a huge fan of doing hours of cardio (purely for excercise that is)

Tolga I've also read a study about how a casein / WPI blend is better for muscle synthesis than anything else... ended up just having ON Gold Standard in the end but will try a Bulk Nutrients WPI next time. I've noticed my legs have gotten really muscular from lifting, more so than any other bodypart, and that's with just doing a regular bodypart split not Starting Strength or anything like that. Thinking about doing chest 2 times a week though, because the amount I can squat is way more than what I can bench (deadlift and OHP is getting there). Dan: fark lifting for anyone but yourself, i know my mrs would have preferred me stay fat, but I couldn't stand it any more! Started doing 10min or so of HIIT type cardio after training, feels good man, except on leg day!

Loving Chobani Yogurt at the moment - 165cal, and 14g protein, no other readily available yogurt I've seen comes close!

cheers Tolga, think I'm on the right track with it then!

this may have been asked before, but is it best to lock the legs upright before moving the barbell off the floor?

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Hoping that is legit gameplay and not all scripted bits, but otherwise looks like the game BF3 SHOULD have been. May even be worth suffering using Origin for.

No no they don't Marc. Especially the US cars. Completely wrong notes and it gets worse when you change exhausts. GT's sound is actually the single most disappointing thing about it after the crappy physics and huge amount of boring "premium" cars. Play Forza to see what I mean.

300 odd rwkw is getting closer to 'enough' for the street. Would not go any bigger on a cam than what I have for a manual and regular street driving, too much overlap = a prick to drive smoothly through lower gears. Stalled auto = no problems. I'd say the upper limit would be where you can't start opening it up without losing traction - tyre choice, suspension of course play a big part in it. Same with big turboed imports - my old R32 was laggy and it sucked balls unless wringing its neck. 4.3:1 diffs did help with that though.

rev: when I say being strict on myself, I mean not giving in to the desire to eat whatever, or getting on the booze whenever without thinking all the time. It doesn't mean that I'm putting myself on a punishment diet. I still have my 'cheat' meals (or even days at times, it can be unavoidable). Depends on what your goals are, some want to just lift heavy, some want to look swole, some want aesthetics (<10% bf) etc. I'm personally trying to lose fat without losing muscle (well as little as possible). I also think that if you're not motivated from within like I am, then it's a LOT harder to stick with it. I've got a lot of people to prove wrong as well. Birds, do you always try this hard to be edgy?

I didn't think anyone was really getting THAT anal about diet in here - it's not like we're all going Keto or something like that. I've even said before that I'm too lazy to calculate macros! I initially tried eating whatever and keeping it to a certain calorie level - it just didn't seem to work for me until I also looked at the composition of the food that I was eating. Wasn't a huge amount of thought involved - avoiding refined / simple carbs, sugars where I can basically and preparing my own food when I can. I don't know if the whole protein amount thing is broscience or not, but it appears to be working for me thus far, and I'm doing all of this with a sustainable life change in mind rather than a "diet". Obviously once I've shed the right amount of fat, I won't have to be as strict on myself.

Birds given that it's commonly accepted like I said that diet is the #1 factor in body composition (because not all of us are blessed with starting from being a skeleton/skinnyfat/ottermode), I don't know why you're acting like we shouldn't be obsessing to some degree over it. I've noticed big changes from altering what and how much I'm eating from week to week. Even simple things like cutting down on simple carbs and not eating take away at all for lunch during the week.

yep steering clear of too much milk due to calories. Birds, the reason I obsess over diet is my obsessive personality that it's the single most important factor when it comes to body composition. Will try the sugar free maple syrup though. Also why I'm not consuming much milk. Current rate of weight loss seems to be good (up to 1kg a week), with what I'm doing, but I am looking forward to when I can relax it a bit.

That I could do - at the moment it's 1/3 cup oats with a little bit of maple syrup, then a can of tuna at 9-9.30 but it's getting a bit cold lately for tuna to be all that appetizing at that time of the morning! Finding habitual eating at night a bit of a struggle still, but staying under 2300 calories a day nearly every day.

Think you are missing the point here - honey does not contain any protein, mass gainer does as well as the sugar based carbs. I probably won't as I'm already buying enough supplements as it is. ActionDan : from my own researching, I've found with a lot of these things you can find a study to support almost any point of view - the only real way to divine results is to look at an extract of the original study cited, and seeing what the controls were for the experiment (i.e. one about WPI vs Casein was done on people who had fasted for 14 hours!), also whether the results gained were causative or correlative (as a conclusion can be implied into that).

I count protein powder as food as that is what it is. I can handle the artificial sweetener in a shake form, but I really cannot stand it (even stevia) in a food product. Thinking of trying a mass gainer for morning oats as it may be more palatable

did the scoop of protein into my porridge this morning, then remembered why I don't. Cannot stand the taste of artificial sweetener in food.

probably dosen't squat

yeah I've been taking measurements as well, mainly of my waist. Starting to get to the point where people are commenting on how I look, so it's nice to know that I'm making it!

Yeah I am - ironically the biggest motivator for me to start doing something was realising how much of a fat f**k I'd become from looking at photos and wondering why I always looked fat haha.

yeah I will, when I'm swole

haha not confident enough to do that Birds. I'm glad I started before I started getting serious man tits or fatty legs though. Getting a bit sick of people trying to tell me I should be going to MMA / Kickboxing / cardio classes instead of lifting because "lifting won't make you fit or lose fat" (apparently the 15kg I've already shed is just water weight). Funny how they're the ones whose body composition doesn't appear to change, apart from the ability to run for kilometers on end. It does motivate me to keep going hard to prove them wrong though, but I've recently started running/jogging as well to try and kick things along a bit.