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Standard edition, PDF format, don't know how much it cost.

speaking of the latest DSM, I've got a copy here that I've yet to really read much of.

Gr8 b8 m8, would have had me except for the fact that it's well known that phagmobiles can't keep up with any LS master race powered cars

I thought the latest on HFCS was that it's pretty much the same difference as any other sugar, and the 'sugars are evil thing' was also overblown hyperbole

you're telling me you never pick anything up and place it above your head? I do it quite often in our storeroom - most of the empty shelving is above head height.

I suggest you read the current Government Health Guidelines - I was surprised when someone awared me to the fact that they do tend to keep up with the science. dajae: I mean that it carries over in terms of picking up something heavy, and putting it overhead, maybe the clean and press is a better example.

April Fools? I like OHP, I think it carries over more into daily life than almost any other lift apart from deadlift, or farmer's walk. It does require more skill than you might think, as I found out the hard way initially. Can either do a slight start with the knees, or not, I do so on heavier reps (as per Rippetoe's method). I also find it a lot more explosive than shoulder press. Not a huge fan of Elliot Hulse anymore - he seemed to have some good insights, then seemed to spiral more and more into pseudo science, TL;DR rants about nothing, and filler videos.

no, shoulder press is done with upper arms already paralell to the ground, totally different movements. It's a favourite with the other people who go to my gym - I'd estimate that 95% of the other people who train there do at least standing shoulder press, if not standing, seated and incline. 5/3/1 would not be enough volume for most if done without any assistance at all - this calculator here http://blackironbeast.com/5/3/1/calculator I do the Simplest Strength template currently, but I might cross over to BBB after a few cycles.

what sort of assistance were you doing with it?

OHP > Bench IMO. Yeah I'd seen reference to DC training in the 5/3/1 book - there's a chapter on it. Rest/Pause training. Suited only for the disciplined who are eating a lot. You also don't rest / pause for squat or deadlift. You can work 5/3/1 with DC training.

I think that's what effective weight training is - doing the same thing week after week and progressing incrementally in the longer term (hence deload weeks etc).

Having a structured program where I walk into the gym knowing how much down to which sets of plates that I'll use what I'll lift is the best IMO. I like having a squat assist on my deadlift day, a deadlift variant assist on squat day, and a bench assist on OHP day. I do have mates who can't stand doing the same thing for more than 3 weeks in a row though, so I guess its horses for courses. Naturally I'm now stronger than them.

5x5 = no good for babby weight IMO.

Figjam, you could do 5/3/1 with minimum assistance too. Starting Strength is Workout A 3x5 Squat 3x5 Bench Press 1x5 Deadlift Workout B 3x5 Squat 3x5 Press 5x3 Power cleans Workouts A and B alternate on 3 non-consecutive days per week. Workouts A and B alternate on 3 non-consecutive days per week.

so Starting Strength basically?

I've been liking 5/3/1 too - I'm currently using the Simplest Strength template due to it having a programmed main assistance lift mostly - I've finished the first cycle and jumped straight into the second - I figured the deload was more for those who have been doing it for a while. It is a slower rate of progression, as it's aimed at the intermediate to advanced lifter

Looks complicated, is it some sort of Westside program? I thought that having dynamic/heavy days was more orientated towards equipped lifters?

might have to get some straps

yeah I did have bloody sore delts today though - according to my 5/3/1 assistance, I should have been doing 135 or so!

did front squats today - with the clean grip I was doing it wrong cause it was loading up my wrists, was much more manageable with arms crossed, but I think I might have had the bar sitting too far forward on the delts. Did manage to get 5x100 out though.

good vid - I watched his one on benching and that helped me a lot too.

cheers Tolga - I'll get it eventually!

had all fingers ,and no didnt think it was meant to be that close. I obviously need to watch a few more vids on correct form. Was trying to get all 4 fingers under there lol

not allowed to take pics or record @ gym unfortunately. hard to sit bar on front delts while keeping elbows up mainly.

I didn't think my wrist mobility was that bad to be honest given that I do curls fine with a straight bar and I do do the abovementioned stretch - just found it hard to get into the clean position.